<CPOV> Wikipedia as an Alternative United Nations-Like Forum
Jon Awbrey
jawbrey at att.net
Fri Jun 18 14:36:58 CEST 2010
Dror,
Here's an experiment for everyone to try.
Run through this list of English Wikipedia User Names (EW:UN):
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&limit=1000
One thousand at a time till you get to the end ...
Then write a story about a prospective UN-Democracy populated by "entities" like that.
That's Chicago! -- Vote Early Vote Often (VEVO)
Jon Awbrey
Dror Kamir wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have once made a comparison between the process of adopting a UN resolution
> and negotiating terminology or phrasing on Wikipedia (see attached png file).
> Maybe I even presented this comparison slide in Bangalore. Rereading it, I must
> admit it is not accurate enough, but the point was to draw the line between two
> essentially different decision-making systems that were meant to serve different
> purposes. The UN is supposed to be a kind of international parliament, i.e. it
> is a political body that reaches politically motivated decisions in a democratic
> way. Its methods are far from being perfect, but that's idea. Wikipedia, on the
> other hand, set its goal at providing information, hence democratically deciding
> upon an article's phrasing is inadequate. Wikipedia, and similar projects,
> should practice pluralism rather than democracy (the two concepts are similar
> but not identical).
>
> Apparently, there is a trend on en-wp to move toward the UN-model. Take a look
> here:
> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Israeli_settlements
> *The issue is a political mind field. I have been following the contributions of
> the editor who opened this discussion, and it is quite obvious that he is
> politically motivated. It is therefore unsurprising that he pied-piped the rest
> of the debaters into a UN-like discussion. He presented a statement and called a
> vote. The voters in favor are mostly people who frequently cooperate with him.
> Interestingly enough, the claim that this method of debating does not serve the
> purpose of Wikipedia (whether the initiator of the discussion is right or wrong)
> is left quite faint, not endorsed or even argued with by anyone.
>
> Dror K
>
> PS - Many people get tired of the ME conflict. I can't blame them, but it is
> easier to talk about one's own toothache than about the dental problems of
> people on another part of the world. If anyone wants to respond using a
> different example from another geopolitical conflict or from a different field
> altogether, please do.
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