<CPOV> A quote from an English-language Wikipedia talk page that begs some pondering and comments

nathaniel tkacz nathanieltkacz at gmail.com
Tue Nov 1 01:38:30 CET 2011

hi dror,

i want to know why it is interesting to you. is it because of the request
to add a reference to anything that is challenged or is it something else?
i guess i don't see what is so special about it, compared to all the other
discussion pages and what goes on in them. i'm interested to know why
you're interested in it.

Nate Tkacz

ARC Research Associate
Genealogies of Digital Light
The University of Melbourne
Site: http://www.digital-light.net.au/

PhD Candidate
School of Culture and Communication
The University of Melbourne

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Research Page: http://nathanieltkacz.net

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Dror Kamir <dqamir at bezeqint.net> wrote:

>  Hi,
> I have recently found the following quote on one of the English-language
> Wikipedia's talk pages. This comment was made in the context of sourcing
> information related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. I bring it as it was
> written, but without identifying details. I wonder about this person's view
> regarding the purpose of sourcing information. If you can spare a moment,
> please tell me what you think
> " *Indeed, the usual suspects are here making spurious claims about the
> evils of those who, shock and horror, request citations for material in
> encyclopedia article. These people, who are known to do such things as call
> the villages of the natives that had been destroyed by European colonists
> hovels with no connection to any contributions to greater society or call
> the natives themselves illegal squatters or displaced Jordanians, still
> have not internalized the simple point that all material that is challenged
> requires an in-line citation and that references are not the same thing as
> external links. And yet, because they fail to understand these basic
> points, they feel both justified and qualified to claim that those that do
> understand these basic points are engaging in nonsensical wikilawyering. It
> may be nonsensical as it does not make sense to you, but I can ask a group
> of fourth graders if it makes sense to them. I am fairly confident that
> they will be able to grasp such a basic concept as add citations when they
> are requested, don't cry about the person requesting them. *"
> Dror
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