<CPOV> An interesting debate on the HE Wikipedia over the notability of a person who set himself on fire during a protest in Tel Aviv

Heather Ford hfordsa at gmail.com
Thu Aug 23 15:08:21 CEST 2012

This is so interesting, Dror. Thank you for sharing. I'm looking forward to your translation!

On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Dror Kamir wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't know how many of you have heard about Moshe Silman. His death, a week after setting himself on fire during a rally in Tel Aviv against the cost of living and the government's social policy (which took place on 14 July 2012), brought the recent anti-government protests to a new peak. You can read about him here: http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/israeli-man-sets-himself-on-fire-during-tel-aviv-social-protest-1.451041 here: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/world/middleeast/israeli-protester-moshe-silman-dies-after-self-immolation.html here:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/18/moshe-silman-self-immolation and in many other Israeli and international reports.
> There is an interesting debate currently going on about whether an article about him should be included in the Hebrew Wikipedia. Apparently people tried to start an article about him shortly after the reports about his dramatic act of protest reached the local press. The people who tried to initiate the article were not "hard-core" Wikipedians, some of them weren't even registered and didn't bother to register. The non-registered users were soon blocked, as the article was put under special protection, and the article was nominated for deletion.
> I read two interesting blogposts about the issue by a non-Wikipedian who said he was one of those who tried to initiate the article without registering (Based on his posts, I'm not sure he even knew in advance that WP had a registration option). I'm translating his posts into English, but it's going to take me some time, so if you happen to know some Hebrew and wish to read them, you can find them here: http://cafe.themarker.com/post/2697180/ and here: http://cafe.themarker.com/post/2707797/ If you use machine translation - do it cautiously. The Heb-to-Eng option is still a huge challenge for this mechanism.
> Some background - The Hebrew Wikipedia is known to adhere to delitionism. The protests in Israel that started about a year ago (focusing mainly on social and economic government policy and partially inspired by the similar protests in southern Europe and by the so-called Arab Spring protests) triggered a demand for Hebrew Wikipedia article about the leaders of the protests, like Daphni Leef and Stav Shaffir (both now have articles also in English). The Hebrew article about Daphni Leef was nominated for deletion while Wikimania 2011 was held in Haifa (and incidentally a large protesters' camp was set just next to the Wikimania 2011 venue). The protest was mentioned by the keynote speakers, and Jimmy Wales brought the Daphni Leef article deletion debate as a major topic in his closing talk about "the state of the Wiki".
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