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<p style="margin-bottom: 1cm; margin-top: 0pt; direction: ltr;">Hi,</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 1cm; margin-top: 0pt; direction: ltr;">It
took me quite a while, but eventually I summarized all I could
extract (within my limits of time and resources) about the
creation of the article dealing with the recent Egyptian
revolution (the word "revolution" in this context merely indicates
that it is more than a coup d'état, only time will tell whether it
indeed revolutionized the history of Egypt). Save this small
comment of mine in brackets, there is nothing in my analysis that
actually relates to Egypt or its politics. This is about Wikipedia
and the way it functions, or manipulated, within a political
turmoil. I suppose there is a lot more to say about it, but that's
the best I can do for now. I am also going to talk about it at
Wikimania 2011 in Haifa.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 1cm; margin-top: 0pt; direction: ltr;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://anduraru.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/parallel-online-and-real-world-egyptian-revolutions-or-wikipedias-tahrir-square/">http://anduraru.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/parallel-online-and-real-world-egyptian-revolutions-or-wikipedias-tahrir-square/</a></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 1cm; margin-top: 0pt; direction: ltr;">Dror
K<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 1cm; margin-top: 0pt; direction: ltr;">בתאריך
03/02/11 18:56, ציטוט Dror Kamir:<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 1cm; margin-top: 0pt; direction: ltr;">Hi,</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 1cm; margin-top: 0pt; direction: ltr;">It
is an interesting subject indeed, but I don't see how it relates
to the concept that underlies Wikipedia, namely sources of
knowledge written collaboratively or by "crowd-sourcing".
Wikileaks, despite the "wiki" incorporated in its name, is
actually another news agency, collecting information from
various sources and offering them to newspapers.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 1cm; margin-top: 0pt; direction: ltr;">Dror<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 1cm; margin-top: 0pt; direction: ltr;">בתאריך
03/02/11 17:43, ציטוט Athina Karatzogianni:<br>
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type="cite">Hi Dror, CPOV list
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am emailing to recognise what you are saying in relation
to wikipedia's Egyptian protest, </div>
<div>and I dont wish to hijack your email,</div>
<div>but also I am emailing the list to start a discussion, if
people are at all willing, on Wikileaks as</div>
<div>a side issue to this, and the overall social media factor
concerning the protests in Tunisia, Egypt and soon</div>
<div>to be elsewhere.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The spectrum of issues is so far and wide, that attempting
to take in the empirical reality quickly enough to </div>
<div>advance our theoretical understanding of what is happening
in so many areas is head spinning.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am currently writing a couple of chapters for different
book efforts, one looking at Wikileaks as an actor in global
politics and their effect</div>
<div>in relation to the content released and the media political
economy of how it was released, and another looking at
Wikileaks </div>
<div>internally and the organizational, ideological, and
internal issues emerging in regards to leadership and forking
to Openleaks.</div>
<div>Wikileaks is in a way a starting point to address issues
lurking in my area of expertise during the last decade.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I hope this is not seen as too self-involved and I am
wondering whether other where doing similar work, in which
case it would be interesting for me to exchange some views on
this list or via one-to-one emails/chats at this point.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Athina </div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/31 Dror Kamir <span dir="ltr"><<a
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0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br>
<br>
I suppose you have all noticed that Egypt is going through
rough time, but I wonder if you looked into the history of
the article about the events. It almost seems as if the
article preceded the actual events. The article on the
English-language Wikipedia is entitled "2011 Egyptian
protests". It already exists in 39 languages (incl.
English). In Arabic and Egyptian-Arabic it is entitled
"The Egyptian Revolution of Wrath" (the demonstrations on
Friday were called by the organizers "Friday of Wrath").<br>
<br>
Now to the interesting part - The demonstrations were
planned via FaceBook for about a week, and "D-Day" was
Tuesday, 25 January (which is a public holiday in Egypt).
The first version of the article on the English Wikipedia
has a time stamp of 13:26 25 January 2011 (UTC I presume).
The person who initiated the article is nicknamed "The
Egyptian Liberal" and according to his userpage he is an
Egyptian who lives in Dubai and speaks both Arabic and
English as mother tongues. "The Egyptian Liberal" worked
very fast to enrich the article, and it was practically
written in the course of the events. In the list of things
that Wikipedia isn't there is a paragraph saying
"Wikipedia is not a newspaper". Indeed, Wikipedia did not
function here as a newspaper, but rather as a tool serving
the organizers of the demonstrations.<br>
<br>
An equivalent article was initiated on the Arabic
Wikipedia 3 and a half hours after its English
counterpart. It was initiated by someone who apparently
lives in Egypt, but "The Egyptian Liberal" joined him
quite soon. The article on the Egyptian-Arabic Wikipedia
emerged only on 28 January, two and a half days after its
English and Arabic counterparts. It was initiated by a
person who lives in Egypt, and he is also the main
contributor, but "The Egyptian Liberal" had his share here
too.<br>
<br>
These are just my first observation, which I find
interesting because it is, in my opinion, another stage of
Wikipedia losing its encyclopedic characteristics.<br>
<br>
Dror<br>
<br>
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בתאריך 31/01/11 17:07, ציטוט Maja van der Velden:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;"> Define Gender Gap? Look Up
Wikipedia’s Contributor List<br>
<br>
In 10 short years, Wikipedia has accomplished some
remarkable goals. More than 3.5 million articles in
English? Done. More than 250 languages? Sure. But
another number has proved to be an intractable obstacle
for the online encyclopedia: surveys suggest that less
than 15 percent of its hundreds of thousands of
contributors are women.<br>
<br>
More here:<br>
<br>
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href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/business/media/31link.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&emc=eta1&adxnnlx=1296486151-4fB4AiSiCizUtpXNS2UGPA"
target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/business/media/31link.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&emc=eta1&adxnnlx=1296486151-4fB4AiSiCizUtpXNS2UGPA</a><br>
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Greetings,<br>
<br>
Maja<br>
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