[Dancecult-l] Reference Library

[Graham St John]

Tobias, thats well taken regarding the limited usefulness of Ishkur's 
approach to genre.

And as Meghan clarified, her question referenced the literature - 
scholarly - on the communities or cultures of EDM, a query harkening 
back to initial discourse on this list about generating a reference 
list(s) of published material on EDMC (much of which might address 
the theme of genre). This idea seemed to have drifted up and 
dissipated like some once inspired exhalation, and perhaps it is time 
to reskin it since its just as important now as it was at the 
beginning of 2005, though with much more literature to contend with.

If a list, or set of sublists of work on EDMC were established, we'd 
need a site for it, and I could keep it on a website ive been 
developing, if others are willing to assist in the list's 
compilation. I think there were volunteers a year ago, but Ive moved 
to my third continent in a year (I now find myself in Santa Fe New 
Mexico) so how can i keep track of such things? The site i have in 
mind is the following, though there's scope for a more dedicated site 
down the track.
http://www.edgecentral.net/

Im sure plenty of people on this list could offer references - like 
pages of them. What we need is someone to accept this data and then 
give it some form - ie use endnote or such to start compiling a 
bibliography.

I think we'd have to limit this to sources published in English.

If any one wants to lend any graphics expertise to this project let 
me know (e.g. a dancecult logo).

Any thoughts?

Graham


>Amazing how far this has travelled. "Ishkur" hails from Vancouver 
>BC, and set about on his genre guide as a bit of a send-off to rave 
>culture and "clueless candy ravers" who couldn't tell trance from 
>techno. The project began through various discussions from 
>NorthWestRaves [NWR], a Hyperreal.org email list and EDM community 
>(which threw a number of amazing "list parties"), spurned in part 
>from many discussions but also one I had a hand in circa 1997 or so 
>called 'techno theory.'
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>Of course Ishkur, ruthless and an amazing flame war master who 
>learned from the best, also hammered nails into technoheads, of 
>which certain minimal and Detroit techno definitions still present 
>in this guide still contain a few words of my own, twisted and 
>warped to perhaps not-so-artfully critique the superiority complex 
>of the technohead stance (one which has since shifted dramatically 
>-- a piece I wrote on techno, as a genre, coming to term with its 
>split from trance circa 1992 talks about this complex in terms of 
>the shift circa 2000 on the Kompakt label as techno incorporated 
>trance, coming to peace with it in a way -- see e/i magazine #6 -- 
>email me if you want a PDF copy as I believe it's quite hard to find 
>now that the magazine has gone out-of-print; otherwise see 
><http://www.ei-mag.com>http://www.ei-mag.com ).
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>Unfortunately much of Ishkur's original website is now long gone due 
>to server problems and bandwidth issues, but it contained at one 
>time a great series of blog posts and articles by Ishkur taking the 
>piss out of the rave scene.
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>As for his Guide, his genre definitions are only meant to be 
>pisstakes -- I wouldn't trust them for a second, and they are often 
>historically inaccurate, quite obviously completely value-laden and 
>utterly sarcastic. The Guide itself would make a great object of a 
>cultural study (let me know if anyone is interested), but I would 
>greatly question its authority for any usage, nevermind that of EDM 
>scholars! For the most part the Guide, like a lot of h at x0r 
>pisstakes, chumps the user for being there in the first place -- 
>n00b!
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>best, tV
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>Anyone have suggestions? I would love any recommendations for the
>basics of an EDM library.
>
>Meghan
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>the best catalogue of EDM genres I've ever seen has to be Ishkur's Guide:
>
><http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html>http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html
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>a total network too with loads of samples!    Of course anybody's 
>family tree of genre's and their definitions tends to be subjective 
>and arguable, but nonetheless this one is super informative, spot on 
>and hilarious on many occaisions.
>-Evan
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