[Dancecult-l] liveness

[James E]

In his bathrobe no less. FYI, it was the "most live sound" I have ever heard 
out at an EDM event.

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From: "tobias c. van Veen" <tobias at techno.ca>
To: "Dancecult" <Dancecult-l at listcultures.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Dancecult-l] liveness


> Aphex Twin was notorious for laying down on a psychiatrist's couch with a
> DAT playing while two freaks in giant plush teddy bear costumes danced
> around stage. _t
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>> rob
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>> my recollections of Aphex Twin 'live' are that it was rarely
>> live  . . . . likewise my understanding was that CDs took preference
>> over vinyl in psy-trance because of the portability/robust-ness for
>> travelling. likewise the earlier use of minidiscs (and previously
>> DATs) as a preferred format within the scene.
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>> style-wise it may also be that psy-trance djing has tended, partially
>> because of the early use of minidiscs and DATs made end-to-end mixing
>> the preferred method of DJing - which is far less interactive than,
>> say, mixing jungle/d&b or techno with their fast cuts, loops tracks
>> etc (i'm talking late 90s here).
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>> seb chan
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>> On 27/06/2007, at 4:02 PM, Rob Lindop wrote:
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>>> I wondered if anyone has considered entirely electronic 'live'
>>> performance, as popularised by the likes of Orbital and Aphex Twin
>>> in the '90s. This is certainly problematic- even though this
>>> approach involves a high level of mixing, real-time sound
>>> manipulation etc, it still relies heavily on loops and sequencing.
>>> Therefore it is a moot as to whether this approach can be seen as
>>> truly live- what do people think about this?
>>> I'm currently researching my PhD on psy-trance and one of the
>>> things that I'm interested in is why 'live' sets seem to take
>>> preference over DJ sets, even though the former are not 'live' in
>>> the traditional sense of the word. Some of the big name producers
>>> such as Simon Posford (Hallucinogen) and Merv Pepler  (Eat Static)
>>> tend to view dj'ing as not particularly creatively fulfilling and
>>> something that 'pays the bills'- whereas live performance is much
>>> more pleasing.  There does seems to be more focus on the producer
>>> within psy-trance- partly as a result of CD's being the preferred
>>> format for the music. Consequently, nearly everything is released
>>> on artist albums and compilations, so there is no 12" vinyl
>>> 'culture'. This is quite unusual for such a dancefloor-orientated
>>> style of EDM- any thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> Rob
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