[Dancecult-l] liveness -- LIVE ON VIDEO!

[tobias c. van Veen]

> In his bathrobe no less. FYI, it was the "most live sound" I have ever heard
> out at an EDM event.

You seriously need to get out more!

;p

Here's some vids this year of MUTEK. Check out Cobblestone Jazz. Serious
'live' insofar as jazz musicianship comes into the crafting of techno; Kode
9, sequencing on the fly with Spaceape toasting on top (dubstep stylee);
Randy Jones, using his own 'conducting' interface via Max/MSP to control a/v
patterning; Clinker, sampling his own voice to construct, on the fly, his
drones; and an interview with Broke (aka Matias Aguayo and Marcus Roccness
from Kompakt) -- too bad I have no footage of the performance but Matias
sings.

In the technowerld some of you may have heard of Mathew Dear's new 'big
band' approach (something of an interesting 'experiment' at MUTEK, not
entirely sure if it was successful) but I think when Atom Heart recreated
Senor Coconut 'live' in 2003 at MUTEK it trumped every intellectual 'live'
debate ever (basically, Senor Coconut was one of Heart's infamous 'faked'
projects -- a marachi / samba band from South America that did Kraftwerk
covers -- but in reality the entire thing was in-studio by Atom Heart. But
when summoned to play 'live', he actually invented a real band in South
America, with costumes, which played 'live' while he stood off-stage
centre-left with his laptop as the 'authenticator' of the performance,
'conducting' the proceedings). Here's what I dug out at the time:

    http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/118

Anyway, chk out these vids  -- :

Kode 9 + Spaceape:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G0MYajFs3UQ

Cobblestone Jazz:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ClKlLkjnJQY

Randy Jones:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qRn_pozXbWA

Clinker:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nj-ffuoHvZA

Broke:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_J7_ZG704S0

Also what Philip Sherburne has to say this year on MUTEK over at Pitchfork
is worth reading -- he comments on the progression of 'live' electronica (of
course nobody every discusses in this context 'live electronic music' such
as AMM or musique concrete, but anyway):

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/43572-the-month-in-techno


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tobias c. van Veen" <tobias at techno.ca>
> To: "Dancecult" <Dancecult-l at listcultures.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dancecult-l] liveness
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>> Aphex Twin was notorious for laying down on a psychiatrist's couch with a
>> DAT playing while two freaks in giant plush teddy bear costumes danced
>> around stage. _t
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>> 
>>> rob
>>> 
>>> my recollections of Aphex Twin 'live' are that it was rarely
>>> live  . . . . likewise my understanding was that CDs took preference
>>> over vinyl in psy-trance because of the portability/robust-ness for
>>> travelling. likewise the earlier use of minidiscs (and previously
>>> DATs) as a preferred format within the scene.
>>> 
>>> style-wise it may also be that psy-trance djing has tended, partially
>>> because of the early use of minidiscs and DATs made end-to-end mixing
>>> the preferred method of DJing - which is far less interactive than,
>>> say, mixing jungle/d&b or techno with their fast cuts, loops tracks
>>> etc (i'm talking late 90s here).
>>> 
>>> seb chan
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>>> 
>>> On 27/06/2007, at 4:02 PM, Rob Lindop wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I wondered if anyone has considered entirely electronic 'live'
>>>> performance, as popularised by the likes of Orbital and Aphex Twin
>>>> in the '90s. This is certainly problematic- even though this
>>>> approach involves a high level of mixing, real-time sound
>>>> manipulation etc, it still relies heavily on loops and sequencing.
>>>> Therefore it is a moot as to whether this approach can be seen as
>>>> truly live- what do people think about this?
>>>> I'm currently researching my PhD on psy-trance and one of the
>>>> things that I'm interested in is why 'live' sets seem to take
>>>> preference over DJ sets, even though the former are not 'live' in
>>>> the traditional sense of the word. Some of the big name producers
>>>> such as Simon Posford (Hallucinogen) and Merv Pepler  (Eat Static)
>>>> tend to view dj'ing as not particularly creatively fulfilling and
>>>> something that 'pays the bills'- whereas live performance is much
>>>> more pleasing.  There does seems to be more focus on the producer
>>>> within psy-trance- partly as a result of CD's being the preferred
>>>> format for the music. Consequently, nearly everything is released
>>>> on artist albums and compilations, so there is no 12" vinyl
>>>> 'culture'. This is quite unusual for such a dancefloor-orientated
>>>> style of EDM- any thoughts on this?
>>>> 
>>>> Rob
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