[Dancecult-l] violence

[ripley]

just a note to say I'm enjoying these conversations. I don't post much
here but I do read with fascination.

forgive me if I've missed this, but in discussing both concepts of
violence and raves, I'm thinking of raves that occur in places like
ibiza, or on various beaches in the Global South, do we include the
violence required by tourist economies to make places safe for these
kind of parties?

and Tobias' bear spray stories taken into account, the tensions
between "locals" (redneck or not) who live somewhere, and people who
show up to party in a space that they may leave and never think about
again, may have more complex dimensions, no?

peas

-larisa

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On 5/2/07, Adam Walker <de_proginosko at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Wow! Cheers for letting us know that the event has been cancelled. I guess
> it's just a matter of waiting and seeing what the implications of this will
> be. Nimbin's Mardigrass is an institution, and the event, as well as
> standard Nimbin smoking practices, have been under real scrutiny since a few
> years ago when high positions in district law enforcement were restructured.
>   I was passing through there just when this happened and in the 2 hours
> that I was in the main street, a major fight broke out and I was literally
> accosted by locals who didn't want to sell me pot, but who were sussing out
> whether I was a cop or not (much, much more than normal). The paranonia set
> in motion by state goverments plan to stir things up was very real...and now
> it seems it's having effects on the well known ritual festival. Before this
> time it was such a dubby, peaceful, fun town, where  being able to buy smoke
> in the main street was a novelty for visitors, but the norm for the locals.
> Hmmm, interesting.
>
> Ads
>
>
> >From: thleen <bigk at disinfo.net>
> >To: Dancecult-l at listcultures.org
> >Subject: Re: [Dancecult-l] violence
> >Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 12:42:31 +1000
> >
> > > The other point I want to make is how EDMC's provoke state violence,
> > > and the tactics that dance activists and corporations alike  adopt in
> > > response to interventions, from legislation and ordinance to brutal
> > > paramilitary actions. As Tobias mentioned, sometimes this can become
> >
> >The "teenager" is still public enemy #1. Ever since younger people gained
> >more
> >economic power 50ish years ago, the state has battled all forms of youth
> >gatherings. The state seems to conduct itself like a nasty bully.
> >
> >Nimbin, a quiet country town in Nth NSW, australia, has an annual hemp
> >festival
> >- actually it's call a Cannabis Law Reform festival - and since 2000 there
> >has
> >been a doof associated with the festival. This year it's not happening
> >because
> >the council and cops won't issue the necessary permit. The doof is the
> >sacrificial lamb, the whipping post for the hatred the state has towards
> >the
> >hemp festival. It's harder to stop the main festival because up to 10,000
> >people turn up for this annual gathering . . .
> >
> >The state seems determined to set up a situation where there will indeed be
> >trouble - they're experts in the self fulfilling prophecy department. If
> >you
> >remove the space where thousands of people can safely celebrate (after a
> >midnight curfew in the town), then for sure the cops will be busting heads
> >around midnight this saturday night . . . they will then use this as
> >ammunition
> >to try and stop the hemp festival in the future . . .
> >
> >http://www.nimbinmardigrass.com/2007/doof.html
> >http://www.nimbinmardigrass.com/2007/program07.html
> >
> >cheers, k
> >
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