[Dancecult-l] violence

[tobias c. van Veen]

Hey there,

I just wanted to ping in, and say yah, understanding the 'violence' in the
broader sense in which rave culture operates would be, perhaps, somewhat
necessary if unpacking its socioeconomic circuits. So when rave culture
becomes territorialized -- to use D&G's language -- onto something like
tourist economies (Goa, Ibiza), it might be intriguing to raise the question
of inequalities and so forth. Or, when rave culture turns to clubculture,
there are usually more evident territories of violence at work. And as
Ripley says, there is certainly something to be thought about when rave
culture 'occupies' space, either a) that it may create discord with 'locals'
who feel it is 'their' space (the redneck situation, which is more or less a
political engagement which rave culture can either excaberate or lubricate)
or b) more distastefully, when rave culture leaves its space utterly wasted,
trashed and littered with the refuse of its bohemian ek-stasis (a sea of
waterbottles, burnt-out glowsticks and small ziploc bags...).

At the same time I don't think one would wish to reduce the analysis to
tracing violence. Rather, I think violence was being raised in terms of rave
culture to bring to the fore the violences which reverberate through a
culture which is often seen from the inside and analysed from the outside as
peaceful, nonviolence, ecstatic, etc. And that such violence might be
necessary -- well I would hypothesize and say _ such violence is necessary _
to grasping the ek-stasis of ritualized sonic ab/use. Without something at
stake, without a certain violence, the ritual of the tribal formation would
be somewhat meaningless or without risk. Thus the limit case violences of
the burnt-out body, speaker worship, mental breakdown, disassociation of
formation... all the pitfalls when seeking transcendAnce.

best,

    tobias 




> Hi Larisa,
> 
> You wrote:
> "in discussing both concepts of
> violence and raves, I'm thinking of raves that occur in places like
> ibiza, or on various beaches in the Global South, do we include the
> violence required by tourist economies to make places safe for these
> kind of parties?"
> 
> Can you extrapolate a bit more on this? Can you give example of the violence
> "required by tourist economies".
> 
> Cheers,
> Adam
> 
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