From geert at xs4all.nl  Tue Apr 16 17:42:51 2019
From: geert at xs4all.nl (Geert Lovink)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 17:42:51 +0200
Subject: <unlike-us> links
Message-ID: <4DFB627C-661B-4A16-8669-63B1D20D6FB6@xs4all.nl>

Sam Harris in conversation with Roger McNamee 
https://mailchi.mp/samharris/new-podcast-the-trouble-with-facebook?e=59a991c945 <https://mailchi.mp/samharris/new-podcast-the-trouble-with-facebook?e=59a991c945>

?Mark Is an Authoritarian?: A Facebook Investor Sounds the Alarm About the Company He Helped Build
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/facebook-investor-roger-mcnamee-is-now-a-company-nemesis.html <http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/facebook-investor-roger-mcnamee-is-now-a-company-nemesis.html>

'Die Zerschlagung der Tech-Giganten ist keine L?sung' (NZZ via Patrice Riemens)
https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/amazon-facebook-alphabet-zerschlagung-ist-keine-loesung-ld.1472415 <https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/amazon-facebook-alphabet-zerschlagung-ist-keine-loesung-ld.1472415>

Netzpolitik: So funktionieren Facebooks Moderationszentren
https://netzpolitik.org/2019/exklusiver-einblick-so-funktionieren-facebooks-moderationszentren/

Have social media become a divisive force? With responses from: Paolo Gerbaudo <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Paolo>, Christian Fuchs <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Christian>, Lizzie O?Shea <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Lizzie>, Geert Lovink <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Geert>, Eva Anduiza <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Eva>, Joss Hands <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Joss>, Zizi Papacharissi <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Zizi>, Alfie Bown <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Alfie>, Panos Kompatsiaris <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Panos>, Eugenia Siapera <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Eugenia>, Eran Fisher <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Eran>, Dal Yong Jin <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Dal>, Tanja Bosch <https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/#Tanja>: https://stateofnatureblog.com/one-question-social-media/

Are You Afraid of Google? BlackBerry Cofounder Jim Balsillie Says You Should Be
https://thewalrus.ca/are-you-afraid-of-google-blackberry-cofounder-jim-balsillie-says-you-should-be/

UK gov: ?The era of self-regulation is over?
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-to-introduce-world-first-online-safety-laws

Mark Zuckerberg leveraged Facebook user data to fight rivals and help friends, leaked documents show
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/mark-zuckerberg-leveraged-facebook-user-data-fight-rivals-help-friends-n994706




















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From danielverhoeven at deds.nl  Fri Apr 19 21:29:57 2019
From: danielverhoeven at deds.nl (=?UTF-8?Q?Dani=c3=abl_Verhoeven?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 21:29:57 +0200
Subject: <unlike-us> conflicts and inequality on social media
Message-ID: <5a1e90f3-5c08-f20d-ac13-2f547311aa74@deds.nl>

Dear frieds,

I've followed this list during years, resulting in several articles and 
essays. I was a systems administrator of KnoopPunt 
<http://danielverhoeven.deds.nl/KnoopPunt/index.html>, Belgian node of 
the Association for Progressive Communication from 1991 until 2000. 
Getting older? (born in 1948) I thought it was time to close my research 
on conflicts and inequality on social media( since 2006). I'm working on 
an ebook about it. You can find the first part of the proposal and the 
proceedings at <https://wp.me/p5cEUd-2w>. Please do not overburden this 
list with comments, unless you find it is the only way to do. You can 
write via personal mail, via the blog and via Mastodon: 
@daniv at octodon.social. As you will see the proposal needs additions. Any 
help is welcome.

Kind regards,

Dani?l Verhoeven

http://danielverhoeven.deds.nl/

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From douglas at publicsphereproject.org  Sat Apr 20 04:23:14 2019
From: douglas at publicsphereproject.org (Doug Schuler)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 19:23:14 -0700
Subject: <unlike-us> Fwd: AI & Society and CRASSH Conference Call for
 Papers- Cambridge
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Hi Gert,

When you say 99.99% accuracy for collective intelligence are you referring
to something like quora in which people actually weigh with their answers?
Or something else? I ask because I use in a much broader context.

The why you  should never use quora was very interesting ? almost a
requirements list for a public quora ? which could be called PubFAQ?!?

Thanks!

? Doug





On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:38 AM gertml <gertml at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> This gets interesting.
>
> Collective intelligence is already in a precarious state (because it can
> hardly be profited from and so receives no funding)[1], but add AI (and
> its endless prospect for profit) to it and it will most certainly fail
> miserably (on the "intelligence" part). You trade 99.9% accuracy for 80%
> accuracy (and a lot of profit). What a spectacular missed opportunity
> for problem solving.
>
> AI is the blackbox that can break every tool chain.  The perfect add-on
> cloak for those operating in obscurity.
>
> [1]
> Why You Should Never, Ever Use Quora
> https://waxy.org/2018/12/why-you-should-never-ever-use-quora/
>
> --gert
>
>
> Doug Schuler schreef op 2019-03-11 16:57:
> > Date: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:44 PM
> > Subject: AI & Society and CRASSH Conference Call for Papers- Cambridge
> > To: Douglas Schuler <douglas at publicsphereproject.org>
> >
> > I am delighted to announce this Call for Papers for the forthcoming AI
> > &
> > Society and'Re-' Interdisciplinary Network CRASSH conference at the
> > University of Cambridge on June 26-28 2019.
> >
> > http://www.crassh.cam.ac.uk/events/28385
> >
> > I would like to invite you to submit an abstract and participate in
> > the
> > conference discussion. Please share this Call with your colleagues,
> > research students, within your institution(s) and in your networks! It
> >
> > will be an exciting three days!
> >
> > The deadline for abstracts (300 words, pdf format) is 1st April 2019,
> > to
> > be sent to spg12 at cam.ac.uk.
> >
> > I look forwards to hearing from you.
> >
> > With good wishes,
> >
> > Satinder
> > (Associate Editor, AI & Society Journal)
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > CONFERENCE: Tacit Engagement in the Digital Age
> >
> > CALL FOR PAPERS: Deadline for abstracts (300 words) 1st April
> >
> > Joint Conference by the ?Re-? Interdisciplinary Network and the AI
> > &
> > Society Journal
> >
> > A concept that has been at the fore of discussions around the
> > sociology
> > of scientific knowledge, the limits of AI, and most recently the
> > design
> > of ?collective intelligence?, is ?tacit knowledge?. First
> > coming to
> > prominence in the 1960?s, with Polanyi?s The Tacit Dimension
> > (1966), it
> > is a concept that continues to be addressed by scholars and
> > practitioners from a wide range of disciplinary and inter-disciplinary
> >
> > perspectives, and applied fields of practice. This conference explores
> >
> > the place of the tacit in the 21st Century, where our lives are
> > increasingly augmented by AI algorithms.
> >
> > Engagement with and through social media networks and mobile apps are
> > re-shaping the notion of community and family, and affecting
> > wellbeing,
> > as well as the cultures of the workplace and institutions. The
> > exponential rise of big data flows in networked communications causes
> > vast gaps in translation, confusion about what is true and false, and
> > mistrust of ?experts?. In the shadows of machine thinking we are
> > unable
> > to engage with difference.
> >
> > This challenges us to come up with technological futures rooted in us
> > as
> > persons, not as numbers, parts, sensory mechanisms, genes, and
> > individual bodies.
> >
> > What alternative models might allow humans to better engage with
> > technology?
> > How can we reconsider the relation between a person and a collective
> > intelligence?
> > How can we reconceive the self as interaction in a digital age?
> >
> > Ideas of performance and re-performance help us reposition seemingly
> > singular subjects and objects as collective phenomena, and help
> > reconnect art and science after their separation in the 19th Century;
> > but the arts in general can play a key role in questioning and
> > reframing
> > our understandings by directing attention to the tacit assumptions,
> > norms, and expectations embedded in all cultural processes.
> >
> > There is a supposed neutrality around technology, evidenced in the
> > idea
> > that human ?intelligence? can, in the absence of ?person?, be
> > artificially re-presented, re-constructed and re-produced through
> > computation (AI). The conference explores in what ways the interplay
> > of
> > the arts and sciences is reconceiving augmentation, and questions what
> >
> > an ?intelligence? that is ?artificial? might be.
> >
> > We invite contributions from across the disciplines and practices of
> > the
> > arts, performance arts, humanities, social sciences, natural sciences,
> >
> > engineering, neuroscience, technology, and healthcare to engage in
> > reflections on these and other issues around tacit engagement in the
> > digital age, in line with the four central themes of the conference:
> >
> > 1.      Performance as a Paradigm of Knowledge
> > 2.      Self as Interaction in the Digital Age
> > 3.      Trust in the Shadows of Machine Thinking
> > 4.      Future Possibilities in intersections of Art, Science,
> > Technology,
> > and Society.
> >
> > Abstracts (300 words) should be submitted in pdf format to Satinder
> > Gill
> > (spg12 at cam.ac.uk)
> >
> > --
> >
> > Douglas Schuler
> > douglas at publicsphereproject.org
> > Twitter: @doug_schuler
> >
> >
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> >      Liberating Voices!  A Pattern Language for Communication
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> >
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From gertml at xs4all.nl  Mon Apr 22 10:38:33 2019
From: gertml at xs4all.nl (gertml)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 10:38:33 +0200
Subject: <unlike-us> Fwd: AI & Society and CRASSH Conference Call for
 Papers- Cambridge
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Doug Schuler schreef op 2019-04-20 04:23:
> Hi Gert,
> 
> When you say 99.99% accuracy for collective intelligence are you
> referring to something like quora in which people actually weigh with
> their answers?  Or something else? I ask because I use in a much
> broader context.

AI is supposed to be about intelligence, but it's a lot of hype.

Thanks to one thousand arrests of people who call themselves (?) 
Extinction Rebellion in London (and the rest of the world), the BBC 
managed to respond to their call to tell the truth about climate change 
in this pretty accurate documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ypaUH57MO4

But now the question came: can we have subtitles in other langages 
please?  That would be helpful, one would think. So you go looking for 
the FOSS EU translation AI, but it doesn't exist. In the end, it is 
people who have to do the translation. My suspicion is that machine 
translation is not accurate enough (yet?) for the EU to even try this.

--gert



From dss at secureid.net  Mon Apr 22 14:02:15 2019
From: dss at secureid.net (David Stodolsky)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 05:02:15 -0700
Subject: <unlike-us> Fwd: AI & Society and CRASSH Conference Call for
 Papers- Cambridge
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On 22 April 2019 at 10:39:11, gertml (gertml at xs4all.nl) wrote:

Thanks to one thousand arrests of people who call themselves (?)
Extinction Rebellion in London (and the rest of the world), the BBC
managed to respond to their call to tell the truth about climate change
in this pretty accurate documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ypaUH57MO4


This is the children?s crusade of the new-age religion of ?Global Warming.?


https://cosmism.blogspot.com/2017/10/thatcher-told-met-office-and-bbc-to.html



dss



David Stodolsky, PhD                Institute for Social Informatics

Tornskadestien 2, st. th., DK-2400 Copenhagen NV, Denmark

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From douglas at publicsphereproject.org  Mon Apr 22 20:15:48 2019
From: douglas at publicsphereproject.org (Doug Schuler)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 11:15:48 -0700
Subject: <unlike-us> Cadwalladr takes on tech gods
Message-ID: <CACt_=d+4VvibB4A0aXz8t6fQqE-9U=EKUD+9esAq8VQUNnoFsw@mail.gmail.com>

I did take the reporting that we have been publishing in the
<https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2018/sep/29/cambridge-analytica-cadwalladr-observer-facebook-zuckerberg-wylie>*Observer
<https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2018/sep/29/cambridge-analytica-cadwalladr-observer-facebook-zuckerberg-wylie>*
over the
<https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2018/sep/29/cambridge-analytica-cadwalladr-observer-facebook-zuckerberg-wylie>past
two and a half years
<https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2018/sep/29/cambridge-analytica-cadwalladr-observer-facebook-zuckerberg-wylie>,
I did condense it into a 15-minute talk, and I did deliver it on the TED
main stage directly to the people I described as ?the Gods of Silicon
Valley: Mark Zuckerberg, Sheryl Sandberg, Larry Page, Sergey Brin and Jack
Dorsey?. The founders of Facebook and Google ? who were sponsoring the
conference ? and the co-founder of Twitter ? who was speaking at it.

I did tell them that they had facilitated multiple crimes in the EU
referendum. That as things stood, I didn?t think it was possible to have
free and fair elections ever again. That liberal democracy was broken. And
they had broke it.

It was only later that I began to realise quite what TED had done: how, in
this setting, with this crowd, it had committed the equivalent of inviting
the fox into the henhouse. And I was the fox. Or as one attendee put it:
?You came into their temple,? he said. ?And shat on their altar.?
from:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/21/carole-cadwalladr-ted-tech-google-facebook-zuckerberg-silicon-valley

https://www.ted.com/talks/carole_cadwalladr_facebook_s_role_in_brexit_and_the_threat_to_democracy

-- 
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douglas at publicsphereproject.org
Twitter: @doug_schuler

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From geert at xs4all.nl  Tue Apr 30 11:33:25 2019
From: geert at xs4all.nl (Geert Lovink)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 11:33:25 +0200
Subject: <unlike-us> from Marta Arniani's newsletter
Message-ID: <F74B0FF8-3EC2-42BD-B702-0DD7B06D588A@xs4all.nl>

https://www.getrevue.co/profile/futuribile?utm_campaign=Issue&utm_content=profileimage&utm_medium=email&utm_source=futuribile+%2F+curating+futures

Aloha,
In the past few days Silicon Valley has made a big leap forward in colonising the ?social tech? debate. In his run towards moral salvation, Mark Zuckerberg has started a podcast called Tech & Society with Mark Zuckerberg <http://click.revue.email/mpss/c/FwE/ps1xAA/t.2r7/j7_JMurFQ_aLU-XUbtXbBg/h2/m-2B3dJ6f1XcYl52xf1FbrozwZt6N-2Fgklel7dKPyLCxqRjDFHnh3gSE-2FMtuSwbXzFDIpTsPL6xFQli0eyDGbv4-2F9sBr-2BVXiTFQsGwNLOt7hwrmjIEp21fkae4NmBJP3WlA20N6MXSsE78TU-2BEbi7-2BEKLuaR1w6JVasTZ1EYozFaNNiSYNBwJFLPiiDMHFpHlVoSVT1kQhxi2FJoTCKEWFlpUO-2FbMV-2BtZdp3-2BnvrMN0X9E-3D>, streaming conversations with other eminent society savers (e.g. the CEO of Axel Springer). Time Well Spent, rebranded as the Centre for Humane Technology, <http://click.revue.email/mpss/c/FwE/ps1xAA/t.2r7/j7_JMurFQ_aLU-XUbtXbBg/h3/RhE8KHlatr88pvkTljbO99RV-2F-2FWe40HQR9oZs1onQxJWRsz0wMwlAtp6lHqjDC01SsUF11Zmf597TWT5PyzYot9-2B5jwcYjoZuOUKWKfov6sxqVKnibL9CAaAAtqP9KiGpgK1KDLcNjgfTTI-2BSo5s57toUBuf6VWx2mb6njuEBiU-3D> hosted an event in grand style (video here <http://click.revue.email/mpss/c/FwE/ps1xAA/t.2r7/j7_JMurFQ_aLU-XUbtXbBg/h4/trXlpRf87BxsDGhXkluuyOhb3VHLpDsuvABOpmT51KOA2btaEPJz7zN-2BRisXE-2FGT1jAEEUq4mIqUWDEg6TGdMgGkw8d4kyDrwul2kJ8aJEPrDzqdg4-2FJ8q2WlYarhdaDY4SxmKkkndLIJWUyqRU7dOIRxDsRrSm2-2Fms2q7ovpICeVp13z6kzJnAL1vFV-2FPoM>) to explain to the world that technology companies are causing human downgrading ?by promoting shortened attention spans, outrage-fueled dialogue, smartphone addiction, vanity, ??, and that we need a new agenda for tech. Wired covered the behind-the-scenes <http://click.revue.email/mpss/c/FwE/ps1xAA/t.2r7/j7_JMurFQ_aLU-XUbtXbBg/h5/DK2F1RctFgAfJhRAy0wP2mPkQ5myER06Zsc8cKO1yPCPQVDfuRv265kNI1z2MQnOyclwHPVDZ-2FDeQXqPxHzfEFM9XOVlBqrEXFRRquSAZYzWZU-2FJSUP9CjSndgeX3TM43I6avTMa507K9jEVHKkR3lFr3WFwR4nFEYo9aPigE7KcpDAXDNzMJZQMqZapSG6sp00XzOoyjh84hS47ljLRK1wOwUFLKXxtPClGzKIL12bnrkFZzQrBxd6vYC9mdWln> of the concept, a long process by founder Tristan Harris towards the perfect pitch. Despite the breadth of tech and design expertise (and funding!) collected in the Centre, there is no proposition behind the concept. And reactions <http://click.revue.email/mpss/c/FwE/ps1xAA/t.2r7/j7_JMurFQ_aLU-XUbtXbBg/h6/VE2atosPJwyp5yA4oN-2FSavJiVQxI4ROgr9HSdeM-2FJY6AYSQEh7xrNB8f-2FKwG-2FzxDAKkmJQ1o7DNbSQd0LX0-2Bv3cbUseoZtxyZJMVmrOUC39qde8JwWGnAFy5r9JewN5zrjmeYOeFbCvJF4kyp-2FslqL2nUfB69ILfHwObFp3C2XQJMepnOLCpi0tlDt2xn6Se4zM5wi57b8z6YeyLn-2Fr-2BIQ-3D-3D> of attendees were not enthusiast.
Silicon Valley is seeing this just as moral-washing opportunity. Or as fashionable, given that being ?contrarian? is now a status symbol <http://click.revue.email/mpss/c/FwE/ps1xAA/t.2r7/j7_JMurFQ_aLU-XUbtXbBg/h7/KPtVH4E4ycnM-2FcYpaQtMqX92M7uRcsxcqbKDRvlUeyDyZzNOzahnsYlzBp4y-2BVKktu6rA5Bh-2BibpG9qLGmCq50a5nwXf7AoieGe96ecsplzdPf7w0aBNQ08XBtUqRPf1mntfrx87hwzOXpga2zUNBXEPhWh03khfkr1K4Mh7oT6hAwPuTDeAKjmNRutZaCAzXFipjPXo2vOBhcFsvk-2BxVe8Wo79RPtnntS6GDGsWcp5ifUcF50i7B-2Fqu3zbbyX7n3YNmTwKtBrR78iWVJAQMGw-3D-3D>:
What?s truly fashionable in Silicon Valley today isn?t having contrarian ideas; it?s to be contrarian as an identity. It?s pretty revealing that the phrase we use is ?to be contrarian?, rather than ?to think contrarily?. That says it all, really. ?Being contrarian? in tech isn?t a thought process; it?s a performance. 
Aloha,
Marta Arniani
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