<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Unfortunately the “critical” voice about Facebook in the US is Zeynep Tufekci who is either clueless about social theory (e.g., her notion of authoritarian reveals a complete absence of the theoretical underpinnings and history of thought and critique about power and communication) or is purposefully channeling critical inclinations and impulses into very narrow collaborationist terms (thereby doing the work of reactionary, soft reform that the corporations require in this context). Even having a journalist like Glenn Greenwald as this “critical” voice would be much better. <div class="">Robert</div><div class=""> <br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:00 AM, <a href="mailto:unlike-us-request@listcultures.org" class="">unlike-us-request@listcultures.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Send unlike-us mailing list submissions to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:unlike-us@listcultures.org" class="">unlike-us@listcultures.org</a><br class=""><br class="">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/unlike-us_listcultures.org<br class="">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>unlike-us-request@listcultures.org<br class=""><br class="">You can reach the person managing the list at<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>unlike-us-owner@listcultures.org<br class=""><br class="">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">than "Re: Contents of unlike-us digest..."<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Today's Topics:<br class=""><br class=""> 1. Re: Tim Wu: What comes after Facebook? (Doug Schuler)<br class=""> 2. links of the day (Geert Lovink)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class="">Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:28:06 +0800<br class="">From: Doug Schuler <douglas@publicsphereproject.org><br class="">To: gertml <gertml@xs4all.nl><br class="">Cc: unlike-us@listcultures.org<br class="">Subject: Re: <unlike-us> Tim Wu: What comes after Facebook?<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><F62AB1AF-5172-40FC-B7FF-7B8F0B72CBD5@publicsphereproject.org><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain;<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>charset=utf-8<br class=""><br class="">I couldn?t agree more Gert and I think we?ve reached a shit or get off the pot moment. I?m all in favor of critique but we also need to build and use systems ourselves. I think it?s imperative and viable. I.e. I have a lot of faith in you all!!<br class=""><br class="">Thanks <br class=""><br class="">? Doug<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Apr 7, 2018, at 4:36 PM, gertml <gertml@xs4all.nl> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">what we most need now is a new generation of social media platforms that are fundamentally different in their incentives and dedication to protecting user data.<br class=""><br class="">If we have learned anything over the last decade, it is that advertising and data-collection models are incompatible with a trustworthy social media network. The conflicts are too formidable, the pressure to amass data and promise everything to advertisers is too strong for even the well-intentioned to resist.<br class=""><br class="">One set of Facebook alternatives might be provided by firms that are credibly privacy-protective, for which users would pay a small fee (perhaps 99 cents a month). In an age of ?free? social media, paying might sound implausible ? but keep in mind that payment better aligns the incentives of the platform with those of its users.<br class=""><br class="">?network effects? are not destiny.<br class=""><br class="">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/opinion/facebook-fix-replace.html<br class=""><br class="">--G<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">unlike-us mailing list<br class="">unlike-us@listcultures.org<br class="">http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/unlike-us_listcultures.org<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 2<br class="">Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:37:39 +0200<br class="">From: Geert Lovink <geert@xs4all.nl><br class="">To: "unlike-us@listcultures.org" <unlike-us@listcultures.org><br class="">Subject: <unlike-us> links of the day<br class="">Message-ID: <914CB5F6-EF1C-49B0-A4DF-5A69EB123BD0@xs4all.nl><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br class=""><br class="">RSS is Undead<br class="">https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/07/rss-is-undead/<br class=""><br class="">Dutch TV comedian starts Bye Bye Facebook campaign<br class="">https://in.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-netherlands/widely-watched-dutch-comedian-says-bye-bye-facebook-idINKBN1HG290<br class=""><br class="">Zuckerberg?s testimony in Washington DC (txt of his speech)<br class="">http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF00/20180411/108090/HHRG-115-IF00-Wstate-ZuckerbergM-20180411.pdf<br class=""><br class="">Cronology of the Zuckerberg Sorry<br class="">https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/business/facebook-zuckerberg-apologies/<br class=""><br class="">Open Letter to Facebook from the Data for Black Lives Movement<br class="">https://medium.com/@YESHICAN/an-open-letter-to-facebook-from-the-data-for-black-lives-movement-81e693c6b46c<br class=""><br class="">Quick Guide to The Free Network (thanks to Roel at nettime-nl)<br class="">https://medium.com/we-distribute/a-quick-guide-to-the-free-network-c069309f334<br class=""><br class="">New Yorker Authors on How to Fix Facebook<br class="">https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/how-to-fix-facebook<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Subject: Digest Footer<br class=""><br class="">__________________________________<br class=""><br class="">discussion list on critical research & alternatives in social media<br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">End of unlike-us Digest, Vol 81, Issue 8<br class="">****************************************<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>