<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Hi Gert,</div><div><br></div><div>When you say 99.99% accuracy for collective intelligence are you referring to something like quora in which people actually weigh with their answers? Or something else? I ask because I use in a much broader context. <br></div><div><br></div><div>The why you should never use quora was very interesting — almost a requirements list for a public quora — which could be called PubFAQ?!?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>— Doug</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:38 AM gertml <<a href="mailto:gertml@xs4all.nl">gertml@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Doug,<br>
<br>
This gets interesting.<br>
<br>
Collective intelligence is already in a precarious state (because it can <br>
hardly be profited from and so receives no funding)[1], but add AI (and <br>
its endless prospect for profit) to it and it will most certainly fail <br>
miserably (on the "intelligence" part). You trade 99.9% accuracy for 80% <br>
accuracy (and a lot of profit). What a spectacular missed opportunity <br>
for problem solving.<br>
<br>
AI is the blackbox that can break every tool chain. The perfect add-on <br>
cloak for those operating in obscurity.<br>
<br>
[1]<br>
Why You Should Never, Ever Use Quora<br>
<a href="https://waxy.org/2018/12/why-you-should-never-ever-use-quora/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://waxy.org/2018/12/why-you-should-never-ever-use-quora/</a><br>
<br>
--gert<br>
<br>
<br>
Doug Schuler schreef op 2019-03-11 16:57:<br>
> Date: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:44 PM<br>
> Subject: AI & Society and CRASSH Conference Call for Papers- Cambridge<br>
> To: Douglas Schuler <<a href="mailto:douglas@publicsphereproject.org" target="_blank">douglas@publicsphereproject.org</a>><br>
> <br>
> I am delighted to announce this Call for Papers for the forthcoming AI<br>
> &<br>
> Society and'Re-' Interdisciplinary Network CRASSH conference at the<br>
> University of Cambridge on June 26-28 2019.<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.crassh.cam.ac.uk/events/28385" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.crassh.cam.ac.uk/events/28385</a><br>
> <br>
> I would like to invite you to submit an abstract and participate in<br>
> the<br>
> conference discussion. Please share this Call with your colleagues,<br>
> research students, within your institution(s) and in your networks! It<br>
> <br>
> will be an exciting three days!<br>
> <br>
> The deadline for abstracts (300 words, pdf format) is 1st April 2019,<br>
> to<br>
> be sent to <a href="mailto:spg12@cam.ac.uk" target="_blank">spg12@cam.ac.uk</a>.<br>
> <br>
> I look forwards to hearing from you.<br>
> <br>
> With good wishes,<br>
> <br>
> Satinder<br>
> (Associate Editor, AI & Society Journal)<br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------------<br>
> CONFERENCE: Tacit Engagement in the Digital Age<br>
> <br>
> CALL FOR PAPERS: Deadline for abstracts (300 words) 1st April<br>
> <br>
> Joint Conference by the ‘Re-‘ Interdisciplinary Network and the AI<br>
> &<br>
> Society Journal<br>
> <br>
> A concept that has been at the fore of discussions around the<br>
> sociology<br>
> of scientific knowledge, the limits of AI, and most recently the<br>
> design<br>
> of ‘collective intelligence’, is ‘tacit knowledge’. First<br>
> coming to<br>
> prominence in the 1960’s, with Polanyi’s The Tacit Dimension<br>
> (1966), it<br>
> is a concept that continues to be addressed by scholars and<br>
> practitioners from a wide range of disciplinary and inter-disciplinary<br>
> <br>
> perspectives, and applied fields of practice. This conference explores<br>
> <br>
> the place of the tacit in the 21st Century, where our lives are<br>
> increasingly augmented by AI algorithms.<br>
> <br>
> Engagement with and through social media networks and mobile apps are<br>
> re-shaping the notion of community and family, and affecting<br>
> wellbeing,<br>
> as well as the cultures of the workplace and institutions. The<br>
> exponential rise of big data flows in networked communications causes<br>
> vast gaps in translation, confusion about what is true and false, and<br>
> mistrust of ‘experts’. In the shadows of machine thinking we are<br>
> unable<br>
> to engage with difference.<br>
> <br>
> This challenges us to come up with technological futures rooted in us<br>
> as<br>
> persons, not as numbers, parts, sensory mechanisms, genes, and<br>
> individual bodies.<br>
> <br>
> What alternative models might allow humans to better engage with<br>
> technology?<br>
> How can we reconsider the relation between a person and a collective<br>
> intelligence?<br>
> How can we reconceive the self as interaction in a digital age?<br>
> <br>
> Ideas of performance and re-performance help us reposition seemingly<br>
> singular subjects and objects as collective phenomena, and help<br>
> reconnect art and science after their separation in the 19th Century;<br>
> but the arts in general can play a key role in questioning and<br>
> reframing<br>
> our understandings by directing attention to the tacit assumptions,<br>
> norms, and expectations embedded in all cultural processes.<br>
> <br>
> There is a supposed neutrality around technology, evidenced in the<br>
> idea<br>
> that human ‘intelligence’ can, in the absence of ‘person’, be<br>
> artificially re-presented, re-constructed and re-produced through<br>
> computation (AI). The conference explores in what ways the interplay<br>
> of<br>
> the arts and sciences is reconceiving augmentation, and questions what<br>
> <br>
> an ‘intelligence’ that is ‘artificial’ might be.<br>
> <br>
> We invite contributions from across the disciplines and practices of<br>
> the<br>
> arts, performance arts, humanities, social sciences, natural sciences,<br>
> <br>
> engineering, neuroscience, technology, and healthcare to engage in<br>
> reflections on these and other issues around tacit engagement in the<br>
> digital age, in line with the four central themes of the conference:<br>
> <br>
> 1. Performance as a Paradigm of Knowledge<br>
> 2. Self as Interaction in the Digital Age<br>
> 3. Trust in the Shadows of Machine Thinking<br>
> 4. Future Possibilities in intersections of Art, Science,<br>
> Technology,<br>
> and Society.<br>
> <br>
> Abstracts (300 words) should be submitted in pdf format to Satinder<br>
> Gill<br>
> (<a href="mailto:spg12@cam.ac.uk" target="_blank">spg12@cam.ac.uk</a>)<br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> <br>
> Douglas Schuler<br>
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