<videovortex> nettime meets frameworks meets videovortex

Flick Harrison flick at flickharrison.com
Tue Dec 8 19:47:00 CET 2009

There's an excellent conversation going on on frameworks, an ancient
listserv dedicated to experimental film practice and criticism.

It started out about good experimental film books, the lack of market
for them (not enough uni courses to sell textbooks) and became a
discussion generally about student reading and the death of books.
I.e. one professor lamenting that when he assigned readings, students
actually went to the dean to complain that they had to read books!

Anyway, this message below seems especially good for nettime.  It's
about learning from youtube and an experiment to figure out what
happens when this dominant media culture is allowed to rule the
university classroom.

The frameworks discussion is archived, by thread or date, at
http://www.hi-beam.net/fw/fw41/0642.html .

Nettime, meet frameworks!

(PS - anyone know a simple way to cross-post?  Was going to do it but
anyone replying to both would get rejected unless they signed up for
the opposite list - seems clunky!!)

Begin forwarded message:

From: Chuck Kleinhans <chuckkle at NORTHWESTERN.EDU>
Date: December 8, 2009 12:44:07 AM PST (CA)
Subject: Re: looking for good intro text
Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List

In continuation of Patty Zimmerman's points about new media and
pedagogy, one of the smartest articles I know on the subject, from
Alex Juhasz based on her experience teaching a course on YouTube


Her site/blog covers a lot of terrain and is well worth exploring:


Chuck Kleinhans

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