From info at edu-factory.org  Tue Dec  1 23:18:41 2009
From: info at edu-factory.org (info at edu-factory.org)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:18:41 +0100
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
Message-ID: <4b159641.257.664a.1705580968@webmaildh4.aruba.it>

Dear all,

Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero
issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and
revise it. The layout and the pdf of the various articles
will be ready very soon.

All the best,

edu-factory collective
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From ranabir at mcrg.ac.in  Wed Dec  2 11:11:36 2009
From: ranabir at mcrg.ac.in (Ranabir Samaddar)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:41:36 +0530
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
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Dear members of the collective,
Pl. find a revised intro. It offers slightly nuanced additions. Pl. feel 
free to use or discard them
Best
Ranabir

Professor Ranabir Samaddar
Director
Mahanirban Calcutta Research Group
GC 45, Sector 3, Salt Lake
Kolkata 700106, India
Ph: 91-33-23370408 / Fax: 91-33-23371523
E-mail: ranabir at mcrg.ac.in
Web: www.mcrg.ac.in



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To: <agu at listcultures.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro


> Dear all,
>
> Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero
> issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and
> revise it. The layout and the pdf of the various articles
> will be ready very soon.
>
> All the best,
>
> edu-factory collective
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From n.puwar at gold.ac.uk  Wed Dec  2 23:05:56 2009
From: n.puwar at gold.ac.uk (Nirmal Puwar)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 22:05:56 -0000 (GMT)
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
In-Reply-To: <013901ca7337$d6d92130$1400a8c0@Ranabir>
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Hi
works with the changes.

just one suggestion, if I may - the opening words 'The old institutions
are crumbling' could be changed to 'Long established institutional forms
are undergoing transformations'

Quickly, here are my reasons:
1.'old institutions' just seems like a rather ahistorical phrase. How old
is old in the current drive for the novel, new and innovative
[ref.Connerton 2009 'How Modernity Forgets'].

2.'crumbling' is visually more dramatic than what is happening, which is a
transformation of both down-sizing and expansion, alongside a
re-configuration of public-private economies.

just a suggestion

nirmal
On Wed, December 2, 2009 10:11 am, Ranabir Samaddar wrote:
> Dear members of the collective,
> Pl. find a revised intro. It offers slightly nuanced additions. Pl. feel
> free to use or discard them Best
> Ranabir
>
>
> Professor Ranabir Samaddar
> Director
> Mahanirban Calcutta Research Group
> GC 45, Sector 3, Salt Lake
> Kolkata 700106, India
> Ph: 91-33-23370408 / Fax: 91-33-23371523
> E-mail: ranabir at mcrg.ac.in
> Web: www.mcrg.ac.in
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <agu at listcultures.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:48 AM
> Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
>
>
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero
>> issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and revise it.
>> The layout and the pdf of the various articles
>> will be ready very soon.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>> edu-factory collective
>>
>
>
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Department of Sociology
Goldsmiths, London University.
Co-organiser of Methods Lab
http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/methods-lab/






From raunig at eipcp.net  Thu Dec  3 02:48:16 2009
From: raunig at eipcp.net (gerald raunig)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 02:48:16 +0100
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
In-Reply-To: <4b159641.257.664a.1705580968@webmaildh4.aruba.it>
References: <4b159641.257.664a.1705580968@webmaildh4.aruba.it>
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congratulations for getting it out in 2009!
will there be any hints or small texts included about the very actual
occupations and struggles from zagreb to vienna and california ....?
g.

> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: agu-bounces at listcultures.org 
> [mailto:agu-bounces at listcultures.org] Im Auftrag von 
> info at edu-factory.org
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 23:19
> An: agu at listcultures.org
> Betreff: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero 
> issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and 
> revise it. The layout and the pdf of the various articles 
> will be ready very soon.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> edu-factory collective
> 




From gary at garyhall.info  Thu Dec  3 11:49:36 2009
From: gary at garyhall.info (Gary Hall)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:49:36 +0000
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
In-Reply-To: <24B522730E6F4E20B8AC261B45A75455@ZHdKL120>
References: <4b159641.257.664a.1705580968@webmaildh4.aruba.it>
	<24B522730E6F4E20B8AC261B45A75455@ZHdKL120>
Message-ID: <4B1797C0.6050202@garyhall.info>

Looks good.

Myself, I'm still wondering to what extent there is a crisis, and for 
whom, and whose language it is we're adopting when we speak of their 
being a 'global economic crisis'. (After all, it could be argued that in 
the UK, many of those who are reasonably well paid, didn't loose their 
jobs, and don't depend on income from investments, are actually better 
off financially, since their mortgage rates have declined dramatically.)

However, I agree with the suggestions made so far. It'd be good to 
include a little more about the current struggles around the  
university. And possibly about some of the other experiments with new 
and alternative models for the university that are being conducted, many 
of them online. They may not always be that interesting politically, but 
they do seem indicative of a wider desire for change.

Gary



gerald raunig wrote:
>  
> congratulations for getting it out in 2009!
> will there be any hints or small texts included about the very actual
> occupations and struggles from zagreb to vienna and california ....?
> g.
>
>   
>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: agu-bounces at listcultures.org 
>> [mailto:agu-bounces at listcultures.org] Im Auftrag von 
>> info at edu-factory.org
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 23:19
>> An: agu at listcultures.org
>> Betreff: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero 
>> issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and 
>> revise it. The layout and the pdf of the various articles 
>> will be ready very soon.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> edu-factory collective
>>
>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> agu mailing list
> agu at listcultures.org
> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
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-- 
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School of Art and Design, Coventry University
Co-editor of Culture Machine 
http://www.culturemachine.net
Co-founder of the Open Humanities Press
http://www.openhumanitiespress.org
My website http://www.garyhall.info

Latest book: Digitize This Book!: The Politics of New Media, or Why We Need Open Access Now 
http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/H/hall_digitize.html

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From n.puwar at gold.ac.uk  Thu Dec  3 12:16:09 2009
From: n.puwar at gold.ac.uk (Nirmal Puwar)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:16:09 -0000 (GMT)
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
In-Reply-To: <4B1797C0.6050202@garyhall.info>
References: <4b159641.257.664a.1705580968@webmaildh4.aruba.it>
	<24B522730E6F4E20B8AC261B45A75455@ZHdKL120>
	<4B1797C0.6050202@garyhall.info>
Message-ID: <1802.82.35.51.18.1259838969.squirrel@secure2.gold.ac.uk>

I like the suggestions Gary - perhaps you could pen a paragraph with this
information.

I also agree that we should re-consider using the word 'crisis' - it is
really becoming a little too over used, an empty generalisation. And even
tired to the extent it is a wishful mantra perhaps.

nirmal
On Thu, December 3, 2009 10:49 am, Gary Hall wrote:
> Looks good.
>
>
> Myself, I'm still wondering to what extent there is a crisis, and for
> whom, and whose language it is we're adopting when we speak of their being
> a 'global economic crisis'. (After all, it could be argued that in the UK,
> many of those who are reasonably well paid, didn't loose their jobs, and
> don't depend on income from investments, are actually better off
> financially, since their mortgage rates have declined dramatically.)
>
> However, I agree with the suggestions made so far. It'd be good to
> include a little more about the current struggles around the university.
> And possibly about some of the other experiments with new
> and alternative models for the university that are being conducted, many of
> them online. They may not always be that interesting politically, but they
> do seem indicative of a wider desire for change.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
> gerald raunig wrote:
>>
>> congratulations for getting it out in 2009! will there be any hints or
>> small texts included about the very actual occupations and struggles
>> from zagreb to vienna and california ....? g.
>>
>>
>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: agu-bounces at listcultures.org
>>> [mailto:agu-bounces at listcultures.org] Im Auftrag von
>>> info at edu-factory.org Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 23:19
>>> An: agu at listcultures.org
>>> Betreff: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>> Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero
>>> issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and revise it.
>>> The layout and the pdf of the various articles
>>> will be ready very soon.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>> edu-factory collective
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>>
>>
>
> --
> Gary Hall
> Professor of Media and Performing Arts
> School of Art and Design, Coventry University
> Co-editor of Culture Machine
> http://www.culturemachine.net
> Co-founder of the Open Humanities Press
> http://www.openhumanitiespress.org
> My website http://www.garyhall.info
>
>
> Latest book: Digitize This Book!: The Politics of New Media, or Why We
> Need Open Access Now
> http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/H/hall_digitize.html
>
>
> Book Series
> http://liquidbooks.pbworks.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>
>


Dr Nirmal Puwar
Department of Sociology
Goldsmiths, London University.
Co-organiser of Methods Lab
http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/methods-lab/






From enda.brophy at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 14:35:44 2009
From: enda.brophy at gmail.com (enda brophy)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 08:35:44 -0500
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
In-Reply-To: <24B522730E6F4E20B8AC261B45A75455@ZHdKL120>
References: <4b159641.257.664a.1705580968@webmaildh4.aruba.it>
	<24B522730E6F4E20B8AC261B45A75455@ZHdKL120>
Message-ID: <afc1987b0912030535s5e04cfacq3e89ebfcd3c469e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I think Gerald's question/suggestion is a really good one.  With such
a wealth of struggles occurring throughout the university, why not
weave some of these into the introduction?

e.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:48 PM, gerald raunig <raunig at eipcp.net> wrote:
>
> congratulations for getting it out in 2009!
> will there be any hints or small texts included about the very actual
> occupations and struggles from zagreb to vienna and california ....?
> g.
>
>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: agu-bounces at listcultures.org
>> [mailto:agu-bounces at listcultures.org] Im Auftrag von
>> info at edu-factory.org
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 23:19
>> An: agu at listcultures.org
>> Betreff: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero
>> issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and
>> revise it. The layout and the pdf of the various articles
>> will be ready very soon.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> edu-factory collective
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> agu mailing list
> agu at listcultures.org
> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>



From augusto.illuminati at fastwebnet.it  Fri Dec  4 08:50:10 2009
From: augusto.illuminati at fastwebnet.it (Augusto Illuminati)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:50:10 +0100
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
In-Reply-To: <24B522730E6F4E20B8AC261B45A75455@ZHdKL120>
References: <4b159641.257.664a.1705580968@webmaildh4.aruba.it>
	<24B522730E6F4E20B8AC261B45A75455@ZHdKL120>
Message-ID: <a06240801c73e6d8e7d44@[23.251.66.177]>

>
>congratulations for getting it out in 2009!
>will there be any hints or small texts included about the very actual
>occupations and struggles from zagreb to vienna and california ....?
>g.
>
>>  -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>  Von: agu-bounces at listcultures.org
>>  [mailto:agu-bounces at listcultures.org] Im Auftrag von
>>  info at edu-factory.org
>>  Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 23:19
>>  An: agu at listcultures.org
>>  Betreff: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
>>
>>  Dear all,
>>
>  > Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero
>>  issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and
>>  revise it. The layout and the pdf of the various articles
>>  will be ready very soon.
>>
>>  All the best,
>>
>>  edu-factory collective
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>agu mailing list
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I approve the draft of introduction with the 
suggestions of Ranabir Samaddar  (discarding only 
"different forms of decline and/ or 
translation.."; it's correct "declination"!).
Best
Augusto Illuminati
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From B.Neilson at uws.edu.au  Sat Dec  5 07:48:03 2009
From: B.Neilson at uws.edu.au (Brett Neilson)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:48:03 +1100
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
References: <4b159641.257.664a.1705580968@webmaildh4.aruba.it><24B522730E6F4E20B8AC261B45A75455@ZHdKL120><4B1797C0.6050202@garyhall.info>
	<1802.82.35.51.18.1259838969.squirrel@secure2.gold.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3239A306F7C8F24693698F633C37BE5401B51F5A@VALLE.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Gary, Nirmal ...
 
Does this added language in the first paragraph of the anomalies section capture the issues you raise. If not can one of you rewrite some more?
 

Far from approaching the crisis as a dialectical synthesis of danger and opportunity, edu-factory points to the profound ambivalence and uncertainty marking the contemporary moment of global transition. We have to careful not only about the spirit in which we appropriate the term crisis but also attentive to the multiple agendas that the term has been made to meet. These range from a revolutionary desire for crisis, as if it promises an insurrectionary moment more than reactionary tendencies, to governmental logics that posit crisis as a means for justifying actions that might otherwise be difficult to carry out. On the one hand, it is necessary to ask what the declaration of a crisis conceals, modifies or amplifies of the underlying conditions to which it seeks to draw attention. On the other hand, there is a need to interrogate the multiplication of crises, if not their constancy as a mode of motivating and justifying governmental interventions in the present order of people and things. The writings collected in this zero issue point to perilous futures: the drop in the quality of living conditions of millions and millions of people around the world, the decomposition of labour, and the so called war among the poor. At the same time, they point to the possibility of radical change. The crisis has created a sort of social battlefield upon which these poles of experience take their uncertain shape.

 
Brett
 

 
________________________________

From: agu-bounces at listcultures.org on behalf of Nirmal Puwar
Sent: Thu 3/12/2009 10:16 PM
To: Edu-Factory Editorial Board
Cc: Edu-Factory Editorial Board
Subject: Re: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro



I like the suggestions Gary - perhaps you could pen a paragraph with this
information.

I also agree that we should re-consider using the word 'crisis' - it is
really becoming a little too over used, an empty generalisation. And even
tired to the extent it is a wishful mantra perhaps.

nirmal
On Thu, December 3, 2009 10:49 am, Gary Hall wrote:
> Looks good.
>
>
> Myself, I'm still wondering to what extent there is a crisis, and for
> whom, and whose language it is we're adopting when we speak of their being
> a 'global economic crisis'. (After all, it could be argued that in the UK,
> many of those who are reasonably well paid, didn't loose their jobs, and
> don't depend on income from investments, are actually better off
> financially, since their mortgage rates have declined dramatically.)
>
> However, I agree with the suggestions made so far. It'd be good to
> include a little more about the current struggles around the university.
> And possibly about some of the other experiments with new
> and alternative models for the university that are being conducted, many of
> them online. They may not always be that interesting politically, but they
> do seem indicative of a wider desire for change.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
> gerald raunig wrote:
>>
>> congratulations for getting it out in 2009! will there be any hints or
>> small texts included about the very actual occupations and struggles
>> from zagreb to vienna and california ....? g.
>>
>>
>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: agu-bounces at listcultures.org
>>> [mailto:agu-bounces at listcultures.org] Im Auftrag von
>>> info at edu-factory.org Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 23:19
>>> An: agu at listcultures.org
>>> Betreff: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>> Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero
>>> issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and revise it.
>>> The layout and the pdf of the various articles
>>> will be ready very soon.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>> edu-factory collective
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>>
>>
>
> --
> Gary Hall
> Professor of Media and Performing Arts
> School of Art and Design, Coventry University
> Co-editor of Culture Machine
> http://www.culturemachine.net <http://www.culturemachine.net/> 
> Co-founder of the Open Humanities Press
> http://www.openhumanitiespress.org <http://www.openhumanitiespress.org/> 
> My website http://www.garyhall.info <http://www.garyhall.info/> 
>
>
> Latest book: Digitize This Book!: The Politics of New Media, or Why We
> Need Open Access Now
> http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/H/hall_digitize.html
>
>
> Book Series
> http://liquidbooks.pbworks.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>
>


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Department of Sociology
Goldsmiths, London University.
Co-organiser of Methods Lab
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From n.puwar at gold.ac.uk  Sat Dec  5 11:25:05 2009
From: n.puwar at gold.ac.uk (Nirmal Puwar)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:25:05 -0000 (GMT)
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
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Brett
reads well to me.
- can u insert the word 'specific' before crises in the last sentence.

thank you for working on this.

Gary and others asked if there could be some detail on the student
demonstrations from around the globe. This would be one or two extra
paragraphs of text.

Nirmal

On Sat, December 5, 2009 6:48 am, Brett Neilson wrote:
> Hi Gary, Nirmal ...
>
>
> Does this added language in the first paragraph of the anomalies section
> capture the issues you raise. If not can one of you rewrite some more?
>
>
> Far from approaching the crisis as a dialectical synthesis of danger and
> opportunity, edu-factory points to the profound ambivalence and
> uncertainty marking the contemporary moment of global transition. We have
> to careful not only about the spirit in which we appropriate the term
> crisis but also attentive to the multiple agendas that the term has been
> made to meet. These range from a revolutionary desire for crisis, as if
> it promises an insurrectionary moment more than reactionary tendencies,
> to governmental logics that posit crisis as a means for justifying
> actions that might otherwise be difficult to carry out. On the one hand,
> it is necessary to ask what the declaration of a crisis conceals,
> modifies or amplifies of the underlying conditions to which it seeks to
> draw attention. On the other hand, there is a need to interrogate the
> multiplication of crises, if not their constancy as a mode of motivating
> and justifying governmental interventions in the present order of people
> and things. The writings collected in this zero issue point to perilous
> futures: the drop in the quality of living conditions of millions and
> millions of people around the world, the decomposition of labour, and the
> so called war among the poor. At the same time, they point to the
> possibility of radical change. The crisis has created a sort of social
> battlefield upon which these poles of experience take their uncertain
> shape.
>
>
> Brett
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: agu-bounces at listcultures.org on behalf of Nirmal Puwar
> Sent: Thu 3/12/2009 10:16 PM
> To: Edu-Factory Editorial Board
> Cc: Edu-Factory Editorial Board
> Subject: Re: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
>
>
>
>
> I like the suggestions Gary - perhaps you could pen a paragraph with this
>  information.
>
> I also agree that we should re-consider using the word 'crisis' - it is
> really becoming a little too over used, an empty generalisation. And even
> tired to the extent it is a wishful mantra perhaps.
>
> nirmal On Thu, December 3, 2009 10:49 am, Gary Hall wrote:
>
>> Looks good.
>>
>>
>>
>> Myself, I'm still wondering to what extent there is a crisis, and for
>> whom, and whose language it is we're adopting when we speak of their
>> being a 'global economic crisis'. (After all, it could be argued that in
>> the UK, many of those who are reasonably well paid, didn't loose their
>> jobs, and don't depend on income from investments, are actually better
>> off financially, since their mortgage rates have declined dramatically.)
>>
>>
>> However, I agree with the suggestions made so far. It'd be good to
>> include a little more about the current struggles around the university.
>>  And possibly about some of the other experiments with new
>> and alternative models for the university that are being conducted, many
>> of them online. They may not always be that interesting politically, but
>> they do seem indicative of a wider desire for change.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> gerald raunig wrote:
>>>
>>> congratulations for getting it out in 2009! will there be any hints
>>> or small texts included about the very actual occupations and
>>> struggles from zagreb to vienna and california ....? g.
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: agu-bounces at listcultures.org
>>>> [mailto:agu-bounces at listcultures.org] Im Auftrag von
>>>> info at edu-factory.org Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 23:19 An:
>>>> agu at listcultures.org Betreff: <editorial board> zero issue: draft
>>>> intro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero
>>>> issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and revise
>>>> it. The layout and the pdf of the various articles
>>>> will be ready very soon.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> edu-factory collective
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Gary Hall
>> Professor of Media and Performing Arts
>> School of Art and Design, Coventry University
>> Co-editor of Culture Machine
>> http://www.culturemachine.net <http://www.culturemachine.net/>
>> Co-founder of the Open Humanities Press
>> http://www.openhumanitiespress.org <http://www.openhumanitiespress.org/>
>>  My website http://www.garyhall.info <http://www.garyhall.info/>
>>
>>
>>
>> Latest book: Digitize This Book!: The Politics of New Media, or Why We
>> Need Open Access Now
>> http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/H/hall_digitize.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Book Series
>> http://liquidbooks.pbworks.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
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>>
>>
>
>
> Dr Nirmal Puwar
> Department of Sociology
> Goldsmiths, London University.
> Co-organiser of Methods Lab
> http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/methods-lab/
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
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Department of Sociology
Goldsmiths, London University.
Co-organiser of Methods Lab
http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/methods-lab/






From conricerca at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  5 11:48:12 2009
From: conricerca at hotmail.com (Gigi Roggero)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:48:12 +0000
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
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Dear Nirmal, dear all,

I agree with Gerald, Gary and Enda, we've definitely to add a paragraph on the university struggles all around the world in the last year, and months. Maybe we could open the part on "anomalies" pointing out the "transnational unrests" within the double crisis. Following what Brett wrote, I think also it's the better way to clarify our specif use of the word crisis.

All the best,

Gigi



> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:25:05 +0000
> From: n.puwar at gold.ac.uk
> To: agu at listcultures.org
> Subject: Re: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
> 
> Brett
> reads well to me.
> - can u insert the word 'specific' before crises in the last sentence.
> 
> thank you for working on this.
> 
> Gary and others asked if there could be some detail on the student
> demonstrations from around the globe. This would be one or two extra
> paragraphs of text.
> 
> Nirmal
> 
> On Sat, December 5, 2009 6:48 am, Brett Neilson wrote:
> > Hi Gary, Nirmal ...
> >
> >
> > Does this added language in the first paragraph of the anomalies section
> > capture the issues you raise. If not can one of you rewrite some more?
> >
> >
> > Far from approaching the crisis as a dialectical synthesis of danger and
> > opportunity, edu-factory points to the profound ambivalence and
> > uncertainty marking the contemporary moment of global transition. We have
> > to careful not only about the spirit in which we appropriate the term
> > crisis but also attentive to the multiple agendas that the term has been
> > made to meet. These range from a revolutionary desire for crisis, as if
> > it promises an insurrectionary moment more than reactionary tendencies,
> > to governmental logics that posit crisis as a means for justifying
> > actions that might otherwise be difficult to carry out. On the one hand,
> > it is necessary to ask what the declaration of a crisis conceals,
> > modifies or amplifies of the underlying conditions to which it seeks to
> > draw attention. On the other hand, there is a need to interrogate the
> > multiplication of crises, if not their constancy as a mode of motivating
> > and justifying governmental interventions in the present order of people
> > and things. The writings collected in this zero issue point to perilous
> > futures: the drop in the quality of living conditions of millions and
> > millions of people around the world, the decomposition of labour, and the
> > so called war among the poor. At the same time, they point to the
> > possibility of radical change. The crisis has created a sort of social
> > battlefield upon which these poles of experience take their uncertain
> > shape.
> >
> >
> > Brett
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: agu-bounces at listcultures.org on behalf of Nirmal Puwar
> > Sent: Thu 3/12/2009 10:16 PM
> > To: Edu-Factory Editorial Board
> > Cc: Edu-Factory Editorial Board
> > Subject: Re: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I like the suggestions Gary - perhaps you could pen a paragraph with this
> >  information.
> >
> > I also agree that we should re-consider using the word 'crisis' - it is
> > really becoming a little too over used, an empty generalisation. And even
> > tired to the extent it is a wishful mantra perhaps.
> >
> > nirmal On Thu, December 3, 2009 10:49 am, Gary Hall wrote:
> >
> >> Looks good.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Myself, I'm still wondering to what extent there is a crisis, and for
> >> whom, and whose language it is we're adopting when we speak of their
> >> being a 'global economic crisis'. (After all, it could be argued that in
> >> the UK, many of those who are reasonably well paid, didn't loose their
> >> jobs, and don't depend on income from investments, are actually better
> >> off financially, since their mortgage rates have declined dramatically.)
> >>
> >>
> >> However, I agree with the suggestions made so far. It'd be good to
> >> include a little more about the current struggles around the university.
> >>  And possibly about some of the other experiments with new
> >> and alternative models for the university that are being conducted, many
> >> of them online. They may not always be that interesting politically, but
> >> they do seem indicative of a wider desire for change.
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> gerald raunig wrote:
> >>>
> >>> congratulations for getting it out in 2009! will there be any hints
> >>> or small texts included about the very actual occupations and
> >>> struggles from zagreb to vienna and california ....? g.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>> Von: agu-bounces at listcultures.org
> >>>> [mailto:agu-bounces at listcultures.org] Im Auftrag von
> >>>> info at edu-factory.org Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 23:19 An:
> >>>> agu at listcultures.org Betreff: <editorial board> zero issue: draft
> >>>> intro
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero
> >>>> issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and revise
> >>>> it. The layout and the pdf of the various articles
> >>>> will be ready very soon.
> >>>>
> >>>> All the best,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> edu-factory collective
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
> >>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary Hall
> >> Professor of Media and Performing Arts
> >> School of Art and Design, Coventry University
> >> Co-editor of Culture Machine
> >> http://www.culturemachine.net <http://www.culturemachine.net/>
> >> Co-founder of the Open Humanities Press
> >> http://www.openhumanitiespress.org <http://www.openhumanitiespress.org/>
> >>  My website http://www.garyhall.info <http://www.garyhall.info/>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Latest book: Digitize This Book!: The Politics of New Media, or Why We
> >> Need Open Access Now
> >> http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/H/hall_digitize.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Book Series
> >> http://liquidbooks.pbworks.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
> >> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Dr Nirmal Puwar
> > Department of Sociology
> > Goldsmiths, London University.
> > Co-organiser of Methods Lab
> > http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/methods-lab/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
> > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
> > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
> >
> >
> 
> 
> Dr Nirmal Puwar
> Department of Sociology
> Goldsmiths, London University.
> Co-organiser of Methods Lab
> http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/methods-lab/
> 
> 
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> 
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From gary at garyhall.info  Sat Dec  5 12:39:27 2009
From: gary at garyhall.info (Gary Hall)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:39:27 +0000
Subject: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
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Hi Brett...

Thanks for this. It looks a great way of dealing with the 'crisis' issue.

In response to Nirmal, if it's felt a reference to some of the other 
experiments with new and alternative models for the university currently 
being conducted is needed, then a note could perhaps be added to the 
following sentence:

'The articles collected in this zero issue also highlight emergent 
claims for new educational models and practices of self-managed 
knowledge production.'

This note could run something along the lines of 'Other examples of such 
experiments with new educational models, indicative of a wider desire 
for change, include EXCO: The Experimental College of the Twin Cities 
(http://www.excotc.org/); the Imaginary Border Academy 
(http://borderacademy.org); University of Openness 
(http://uo.twenteenthcentury.com/index.php/AboutUo); Worker's Punk 
University 
(http://www.culturalprofiles.org.uk/slovenia/Units/5837.html); 
University of the Poor (http://universityofthepoor.org/).

I'm sure there are even more that could added if necessary and 
appropriate, not least with examples taken from the list on the 
Edu-Factory site:
http://www.edu-factory.org/edu15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64&Itemid=70

Gary


Brett Neilson wrote:
> Hi Gary, Nirmal ...
>  
> Does this added language in the first paragraph of the anomalies section capture the issues you raise. If not can one of you rewrite some more?
>  
>
> Far from approaching the crisis as a dialectical synthesis of danger and opportunity, edu-factory points to the profound ambivalence and uncertainty marking the contemporary moment of global transition. We have to careful not only about the spirit in which we appropriate the term crisis but also attentive to the multiple agendas that the term has been made to meet. These range from a revolutionary desire for crisis, as if it promises an insurrectionary moment more than reactionary tendencies, to governmental logics that posit crisis as a means for justifying actions that might otherwise be difficult to carry out. On the one hand, it is necessary to ask what the declaration of a crisis conceals, modifies or amplifies of the underlying conditions to which it seeks to draw attention. On the other hand, there is a need to interrogate the multiplication of crises, if not their constancy as a mode of motivating and justifying governmental interventions in the present order of people and things. The writings collected in this zero issue point to perilous futures: the drop in the quality of living conditions of millions and millions of people around the world, the decomposition of labour, and the so called war among the poor. At the same time, they point to the possibility of radical change. The crisis has created a sort of social battlefield upon which these poles of experience take their uncertain shape.
>
>  
> Brett
>  
>
>  
> ________________________________
>
> From: agu-bounces at listcultures.org on behalf of Nirmal Puwar
> Sent: Thu 3/12/2009 10:16 PM
> To: Edu-Factory Editorial Board
> Cc: Edu-Factory Editorial Board
> Subject: Re: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
>
>
>
> I like the suggestions Gary - perhaps you could pen a paragraph with this
> information.
>
> I also agree that we should re-consider using the word 'crisis' - it is
> really becoming a little too over used, an empty generalisation. And even
> tired to the extent it is a wishful mantra perhaps.
>
> nirmal
> On Thu, December 3, 2009 10:49 am, Gary Hall wrote:
>   
>> Looks good.
>>
>>
>> Myself, I'm still wondering to what extent there is a crisis, and for
>> whom, and whose language it is we're adopting when we speak of their being
>> a 'global economic crisis'. (After all, it could be argued that in the UK,
>> many of those who are reasonably well paid, didn't loose their jobs, and
>> don't depend on income from investments, are actually better off
>> financially, since their mortgage rates have declined dramatically.)
>>
>> However, I agree with the suggestions made so far. It'd be good to
>> include a little more about the current struggles around the university.
>> And possibly about some of the other experiments with new
>> and alternative models for the university that are being conducted, many of
>> them online. They may not always be that interesting politically, but they
>> do seem indicative of a wider desire for change.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> gerald raunig wrote:
>>     
>>> congratulations for getting it out in 2009! will there be any hints or
>>> small texts included about the very actual occupations and struggles
>>> from zagreb to vienna and california ....? g.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: agu-bounces at listcultures.org
>>>> [mailto:agu-bounces at listcultures.org] Im Auftrag von
>>>> info at edu-factory.org Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 23:19
>>>> An: agu at listcultures.org
>>>> Betreff: <editorial board> zero issue: draft intro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please find attached the draft of introduction for the zero
>>>> issue of edu-factory web-journal. Please read, comment, and revise it.
>>>> The layout and the pdf of the various articles
>>>> will be ready very soon.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> edu-factory collective
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> --
>> Gary Hall
>> Professor of Media and Performing Arts
>> School of Art and Design, Coventry University
>> Co-editor of Culture Machine
>> http://www.culturemachine.net <http://www.culturemachine.net/> 
>> Co-founder of the Open Humanities Press
>> http://www.openhumanitiespress.org <http://www.openhumanitiespress.org/> 
>> My website http://www.garyhall.info <http://www.garyhall.info/> 
>>
>>
>> Latest book: Digitize This Book!: The Politics of New Media, or Why We
>> Need Open Access Now
>> http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/H/hall_digitize.html
>>
>>
>> Book Series
>> http://liquidbooks.pbworks.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> agu mailing list agu at listcultures.org
>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
> Dr Nirmal Puwar
> Department of Sociology
> Goldsmiths, London University.
> Co-organiser of Methods Lab
> http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/methods-lab/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Gary Hall
Professor of Media and Performing Arts
School of Art and Design, Coventry University
Co-editor of Culture Machine 
http://www.culturemachine.net
Co-founder of the Open Humanities Press
http://www.openhumanitiespress.org
My website http://www.garyhall.info

Latest book: Digitize This Book!: The Politics of New Media, or Why We Need Open Access Now 
http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/H/hall_digitize.html

Book Series
http://liquidbooks.pbworks.com/














From info at edu-factory.org  Fri Dec 11 17:47:00 2009
From: info at edu-factory.org (info at edu-factory.org)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:47:00 +0100
Subject: <editorial board> new draft intro
Message-ID: <4b227784.33.7eba.1800204538@webmaildh1.ad.aruba.it>

Dear all,

Please find attached a new draft of the introduction: we've
followed, add, and put togheter the important suggestions
and corrections raised from the list discussion.

Best,

edu-factory collective
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