From info at edu-factory.org  Thu Feb 12 12:00:09 2009
From: info at edu-factory.org (info at edu-factory.org)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:00:09 +0100
Subject: <editorial board> edu-factory journal call
Message-ID: <49940139.353.2b33.1869401575@webmaildh4.aruba.it>

Hi all,

Thanks for the important and useful comments and suggestions
you sent on the proposal for the edu-factory journal call.
If no amendments arrive in the next few days, the proposal
will be circulated on the edu-factory list, which we plan to
reopen at the end of February.

At this stage of the project, the edu-factory list will have
a new function, working not only as space for discussion of
transformations and conflicts in the university and the
production of knowledge but also as a space in which discuss
to the topics and the contents of the journal. In particular
it would be interesting to debate the abstracts submitted
for proposed articles, with a view to strengthening the
final publication.

About peer review, the edu-factory collective has now
expressed general agreement with the idea that the journal
should be able to attract recognition in the peer review
system. But it has also stressed the need to open up a
battlefield in which to challenge and if possible to
critically transform the peer review system itself. How this
double strategy might unfold is at stake right now. So to
open a discussion within the journal editorial board on this
topic is something not just desirable but also necessary.

Finally, the zero issue of the journal is under
construction. As we have previously discussed, it will
critically interrogate the proposition that the present is a
time of crisis, focusing on both the economic crisis and the
crisis of the university. Editorial board members are more
than welcome to contribute, but we also welcome suggestions
for others we might approach who might express themselves on
this topic. Please send your proposals and suggestions.

Best

edu-factory collective



From ranabir at mcrg.ac.in  Thu Feb 12 12:29:54 2009
From: ranabir at mcrg.ac.in (Dr. Ranabir Samaddar)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:59:54 +0530
Subject: <editorial board> edu-factory journal call
References: <49940139.353.2b33.1869401575@webmaildh4.aruba.it>
Message-ID: <002601c98d05$3c488bb0$0b00a8c0@mcrg11>

In our research collective, we have done away with peer evaluation ssytem. 
In all our publications, in case of articles (and not opinion pieces or 
views) that we undertake to publish these are written, submitted,commented 
upon, and discussed in discussion/evaluation workshops. There are designated 
discussants, who take responsbility, are not anonymous, and are ready to 
have their views discussed in that workshop. Believe me, it takes less time, 
particularly when the publication is a single theme, than the time peer 
evaluation system takes in famous journals. The results are better, we have 
been able to help new authors to emerge, and the collective spirit assists 
in all these. This can be done in virtual workshops also...Just think of a 
mix of invited and unsolocited authors producing the writings...and this can 
be preceded by submissions of suggestions...Very little rejections, on the 
other hand open method of encouraging new ideas and styles...
Ranabir




----- Original Message ----- 
From: <info at edu-factory.org>
To: <agu at listcultures.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: <editorial board> edu-factory journal call


> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for the important and useful comments and suggestions
> you sent on the proposal for the edu-factory journal call.
> If no amendments arrive in the next few days, the proposal
> will be circulated on the edu-factory list, which we plan to
> reopen at the end of February.
>
> At this stage of the project, the edu-factory list will have
> a new function, working not only as space for discussion of
> transformations and conflicts in the university and the
> production of knowledge but also as a space in which discuss
> to the topics and the contents of the journal. In particular
> it would be interesting to debate the abstracts submitted
> for proposed articles, with a view to strengthening the
> final publication.
>
> About peer review, the edu-factory collective has now
> expressed general agreement with the idea that the journal
> should be able to attract recognition in the peer review
> system. But it has also stressed the need to open up a
> battlefield in which to challenge and if possible to
> critically transform the peer review system itself. How this
> double strategy might unfold is at stake right now. So to
> open a discussion within the journal editorial board on this
> topic is something not just desirable but also necessary.
>
> Finally, the zero issue of the journal is under
> construction. As we have previously discussed, it will
> critically interrogate the proposition that the present is a
> time of crisis, focusing on both the economic crisis and the
> crisis of the university. Editorial board members are more
> than welcome to contribute, but we also welcome suggestions
> for others we might approach who might express themselves on
> this topic. Please send your proposals and suggestions.
>
> Best
>
> edu-factory collective
>
> _______________________________________________
> agu mailing list
> agu at listcultures.org
> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org 




From areality at mail.tku.edu.tw  Thu Feb 12 12:34:39 2009
From: areality at mail.tku.edu.tw (Jon Solomon Su Zhe-an)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:34:39 +0800
Subject: <editorial board> edu-factory journal call
In-Reply-To: <002601c98d05$3c488bb0$0b00a8c0@mcrg11>
References: <49940139.353.2b33.1869401575@webmaildh4.aruba.it>
	<002601c98d05$3c488bb0$0b00a8c0@mcrg11>
Message-ID: <4994094F.8020906@mail.tku.edu.tw>

Ranabir, what a great idea!
Jon

Dr. Ranabir Samaddar ??:
> In our research collective, we have done away with peer evaluation 
> ssytem. In all our publications, in case of articles (and not opinion 
> pieces or views) that we undertake to publish these are written, 
> submitted,commented upon, and discussed in discussion/evaluation 
> workshops. There are designated discussants, who take responsbility, 
> are not anonymous, and are ready to have their views discussed in that 
> workshop. Believe me, it takes less time, particularly when the 
> publication is a single theme, than the time peer evaluation system 
> takes in famous journals. The results are better, we have been able to 
> help new authors to emerge, and the collective spirit assists in all 
> these. This can be done in virtual workshops also...Just think of a 
> mix of invited and unsolocited authors producing the writings...and 
> this can be preceded by submissions of suggestions...Very little 
> rejections, on the other hand open method of encouraging new ideas and 
> styles...
> Ranabir
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <info at edu-factory.org>
> To: <agu at listcultures.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:30 PM
> Subject: <editorial board> edu-factory journal call
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks for the important and useful comments and suggestions
>> you sent on the proposal for the edu-factory journal call.
>> If no amendments arrive in the next few days, the proposal
>> will be circulated on the edu-factory list, which we plan to
>> reopen at the end of February.
>>
>> At this stage of the project, the edu-factory list will have
>> a new function, working not only as space for discussion of
>> transformations and conflicts in the university and the
>> production of knowledge but also as a space in which discuss
>> to the topics and the contents of the journal. In particular
>> it would be interesting to debate the abstracts submitted
>> for proposed articles, with a view to strengthening the
>> final publication.
>>
>> About peer review, the edu-factory collective has now
>> expressed general agreement with the idea that the journal
>> should be able to attract recognition in the peer review
>> system. But it has also stressed the need to open up a
>> battlefield in which to challenge and if possible to
>> critically transform the peer review system itself. How this
>> double strategy might unfold is at stake right now. So to
>> open a discussion within the journal editorial board on this
>> topic is something not just desirable but also necessary.
>>
>> Finally, the zero issue of the journal is under
>> construction. As we have previously discussed, it will
>> critically interrogate the proposition that the present is a
>> time of crisis, focusing on both the economic crisis and the
>> crisis of the university. Editorial board members are more
>> than welcome to contribute, but we also welcome suggestions
>> for others we might approach who might express themselves on
>> this topic. Please send your proposals and suggestions.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> edu-factory collective
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> agu mailing list
>> agu at listcultures.org
>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org 
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> agu mailing list
> agu at listcultures.org
> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>
>





From ranabir at mcrg.ac.in  Thu Feb 12 12:43:51 2009
From: ranabir at mcrg.ac.in (Dr. Ranabir Samaddar)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:13:51 +0530
Subject: <editorial board> edu-factory journal call
References: <49940139.353.2b33.1869401575@webmaildh4.aruba.it><002601c98d05$3c488bb0$0b00a8c0@mcrg11>
	<4994094F.8020906@mail.tku.edu.tw>
Message-ID: <006601c98d07$2f4924e0$0b00a8c0@mcrg11>

Thanks, RS
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Solomon Su Zhe-an" <areality at mail.tku.edu.tw>
To: "Edu-Factory Editorial Board" <agu at listcultures.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: <editorial board> edu-factory journal call


> Ranabir, what a great idea!
> Jon
> 
> Dr. Ranabir Samaddar ??:
>> In our research collective, we have done away with peer evaluation 
>> ssytem. In all our publications, in case of articles (and not opinion 
>> pieces or views) that we undertake to publish these are written, 
>> submitted,commented upon, and discussed in discussion/evaluation 
>> workshops. There are designated discussants, who take responsbility, 
>> are not anonymous, and are ready to have their views discussed in that 
>> workshop. Believe me, it takes less time, particularly when the 
>> publication is a single theme, than the time peer evaluation system 
>> takes in famous journals. The results are better, we have been able to 
>> help new authors to emerge, and the collective spirit assists in all 
>> these. This can be done in virtual workshops also...Just think of a 
>> mix of invited and unsolocited authors producing the writings...and 
>> this can be preceded by submissions of suggestions...Very little 
>> rejections, on the other hand open method of encouraging new ideas and 
>> styles...
>> Ranabir
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <info at edu-factory.org>
>> To: <agu at listcultures.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:30 PM
>> Subject: <editorial board> edu-factory journal call
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the important and useful comments and suggestions
>>> you sent on the proposal for the edu-factory journal call.
>>> If no amendments arrive in the next few days, the proposal
>>> will be circulated on the edu-factory list, which we plan to
>>> reopen at the end of February.
>>>
>>> At this stage of the project, the edu-factory list will have
>>> a new function, working not only as space for discussion of
>>> transformations and conflicts in the university and the
>>> production of knowledge but also as a space in which discuss
>>> to the topics and the contents of the journal. In particular
>>> it would be interesting to debate the abstracts submitted
>>> for proposed articles, with a view to strengthening the
>>> final publication.
>>>
>>> About peer review, the edu-factory collective has now
>>> expressed general agreement with the idea that the journal
>>> should be able to attract recognition in the peer review
>>> system. But it has also stressed the need to open up a
>>> battlefield in which to challenge and if possible to
>>> critically transform the peer review system itself. How this
>>> double strategy might unfold is at stake right now. So to
>>> open a discussion within the journal editorial board on this
>>> topic is something not just desirable but also necessary.
>>>
>>> Finally, the zero issue of the journal is under
>>> construction. As we have previously discussed, it will
>>> critically interrogate the proposition that the present is a
>>> time of crisis, focusing on both the economic crisis and the
>>> crisis of the university. Editorial board members are more
>>> than welcome to contribute, but we also welcome suggestions
>>> for others we might approach who might express themselves on
>>> this topic. Please send your proposals and suggestions.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> edu-factory collective
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> agu mailing list
>>> agu at listcultures.org
>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org 
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> agu mailing list
>> agu at listcultures.org
>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> agu mailing list
> agu at listcultures.org
> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org



From conricerca at hotmail.com  Thu Feb 12 15:02:30 2009
From: conricerca at hotmail.com (Gigi Roggero)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:02:30 +0100
Subject: <editorial board> edu-factory journal call
In-Reply-To: <4994094F.8020906@mail.tku.edu.tw>
References: <49940139.353.2b33.1869401575@webmaildh4.aruba.it>
	<002601c98d05$3c488bb0$0b00a8c0@mcrg11>
	<4994094F.8020906@mail.tku.edu.tw>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP7443B1766683AA70CE9878C0BB0@phx.gbl>

Dear Ranabir,

I agree with Jon, it's a great suggestion. We could start to work on  
this model, just based on your important collective experience, and  
experiment it in the edu-factory journal.

Best,

Gigi



Il giorno 12/feb/09, alle ore 12:34, Jon Solomon Su Zhe-an <areality at mail.tku.edu.tw 
 > ha scritto:

> Ranabir, what a great idea!
> Jon
>
> Dr. Ranabir Samaddar ??:
>> In our research collective, we have done away with peer evaluation  
>> ssytem. In all our publications, in case of articles (and not  
>> opinion pieces or views) that we undertake to publish these are  
>> written, submitted,commented upon, and discussed in discussion/ 
>> evaluation workshops. There are designated discussants, who take  
>> responsbility, are not anonymous, and are ready to have their views  
>> discussed in that workshop. Believe me, it takes less time,  
>> particularly when the publication is a single theme, than the time  
>> peer evaluation system takes in famous journals. The results are  
>> better, we have been able to help new authors to emerge, and the  
>> collective spirit assists in all these. This can be done in virtual  
>> workshops also...Just think of a mix of invited and unsolocited  
>> authors producing the writings...and this can be preceded by  
>> submissions of suggestions...Very little rejections, on the other  
>> hand open method of encouraging new ideas and styles...
>> Ranabir
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <info at edu-factory.org>
>> To: <agu at listcultures.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:30 PM
>> Subject: <editorial board> edu-factory journal call
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the important and useful comments and suggestions
>>> you sent on the proposal for the edu-factory journal call.
>>> If no amendments arrive in the next few days, the proposal
>>> will be circulated on the edu-factory list, which we plan to
>>> reopen at the end of February.
>>>
>>> At this stage of the project, the edu-factory list will have
>>> a new function, working not only as space for discussion of
>>> transformations and conflicts in the university and the
>>> production of knowledge but also as a space in which discuss
>>> to the topics and the contents of the journal. In particular
>>> it would be interesting to debate the abstracts submitted
>>> for proposed articles, with a view to strengthening the
>>> final publication.
>>>
>>> About peer review, the edu-factory collective has now
>>> expressed general agreement with the idea that the journal
>>> should be able to attract recognition in the peer review
>>> system. But it has also stressed the need to open up a
>>> battlefield in which to challenge and if possible to
>>> critically transform the peer review system itself. How this
>>> double strategy might unfold is at stake right now. So to
>>> open a discussion within the journal editorial board on this
>>> topic is something not just desirable but also necessary.
>>>
>>> Finally, the zero issue of the journal is under
>>> construction. As we have previously discussed, it will
>>> critically interrogate the proposition that the present is a
>>> time of crisis, focusing on both the economic crisis and the
>>> crisis of the university. Editorial board members are more
>>> than welcome to contribute, but we also welcome suggestions
>>> for others we might approach who might express themselves on
>>> this topic. Please send your proposals and suggestions.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> edu-factory collective
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> agu mailing list
>>> agu at listcultures.org
>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> agu mailing list
>> agu at listcultures.org
>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>>
>>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> agu mailing list
> agu at listcultures.org
> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/agu_listcultures.org
>