From dqamir at bezeqint.net Thu Mar 14 10:39:14 2013 From: dqamir at bezeqint.net (Dror Kamir) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:39:14 +0200 Subject: Can a settler be defined as human rights activist - a debate on the Hebrew Wikipedia makes it to the headlines of the Israeli press Message-ID: <51419AC2.3060802@bezeqint.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nathanieltkacz at gmail.com Thu Mar 14 11:03:29 2013 From: nathanieltkacz at gmail.com (nathaniel tkacz) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:03:29 +0000 Subject: Can a settler be defined as human rights activist - a debate on the Hebrew Wikipedia makes it to the headlines of the Israeli press In-Reply-To: <51419AC2.3060802@bezeqint.net> References: <51419AC2.3060802@bezeqint.net> Message-ID: thanks a lot for sharing this dror. nate On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Dror Kamir wrote: > Hello, > > Once again, a debate on the Hebrew Wikipedia makes it to the headlines of > the Israeli press. This time, it is a debate over the article (in Hebrew) > about Orit Strook (also spelled Struk and Struck). > > Ms. Strook has been recently elected to the Knesset (the Israeli > parliament), and is now a prominent representative of the right-wing > Zionist-religious party "The Jewish Home" (*Ha-Bayit Ha-Yehudi*). She is > a settler from the Jewish community in Hebron (this community is considered > the most hardline among the settler movement's communities. > > Owing to her new status, Strook's article now has the "Knesset Member > template", which, among other details, mentions the person's occupation > before s/he became an MP. In the case of Strook it is defined as "human > rights activist". This is because she headed the "Human Rights Organization > of Judea and Samaria", an Israeli NGO whose main activity is defending > Israeli settlers and right-wing activists against (alleged) police violence > and issuance of restraining orders by Israeli authorities. The title "human > right activist" is rarely associated with activists of the settler > movement, and more commonly used when referring to Israeli left-wing > activists who defend Palestinians against Israeli authorities and act > against the settlement activity in the West Bank. (Note - no political > statement is intended here, I'm just describing the situation for those of > you who are not acquainted with Israeli politics.) > > Some Israeli Wikipedians (at least one of them holds left-wing political > views, to the best of my knowledge) challenged Orit Strook's definition as > "human rights activist" arguing that her NGO defends only the human rights > of settlers and ignores the human rights of Palestinians. According to the > article's talkpage, a similar discussion has already been held in 2007, > when someone suggested to add the category "human rights activists" to this > article (the category is currently not there, just the mention in the > template). These Wikipedians also said that this NGO's mission is > inconsistent with the definition of "human rights" in the article about the > subject on the Hebrew Wikipedia. One suggested alternative was writing that > Strook was an "activist for settlers' rights" or just mentioning that she > was "the head of the Human Rights Organization of Judea and Samaria". A > response to this suggestion was "Another suggestion would be that you > understand that human rights are not an innovation of the extreme left in > Israel". Well, not all responses are sarcastic like this one, but this is > the general idea in most of them. > > The debate is now reported on one of Israel's leading news websites - > NRG-Maariv (the reporter is Arik Bender). According to this report, the > issue was decided by a vote of 28 against 23 to retain the definition > "human rights activist" in the article about Ms. Strook. I can add that the > Hebrew Wikipedia very often resorts to polling in such circumstances. Back > to NRG's report, it also says that certain Wikipedians sent questions to > Ms. Strook, asking her whether she supported universal human rights, > including Palestinians, and whether she defined herself as "human rights > activist". According to the report, Strook sent back an elaborated reply > and denied she was defending only the rights of Jews. She said she had also > defended Arabs who had been sentenced to death by the Palestinian Authority > for selling lands to Jews. > > > - The Report on NRG-Maariv (in Hebrew): > http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/451/918.html?hp=1&cat=404&loc=9 > - The article about Orit Strook on the Hebrew Wikipedia > http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA_%D7%A1%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A7 > - The voting debate and process on the Hebrew Wikipedia (in Hebrew) > http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%AA_%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%9B%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%91%D7%9E%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%A7%D7%AA/:%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA_%D7%A1%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A7 > - The debate on the article's talkpage (in Hebrew) > http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%97%D7%94:%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA_%D7%A1%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A7#.D7.9B.D7.A4.D7.99.D7.9C.D7.95.D7.AA_.D7.91.D7.AA.D7.91.D7.A0.D7.99.D7.AA > > > I hope you find this interesting, > > Best, > Dror K > > > > > _______________________________________________ > cpov mailing list > cpov at listcultures.org > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/cpov_listcultures.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hfordsa at gmail.com Thu Mar 14 11:12:48 2013 From: hfordsa at gmail.com (Heather Ford) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:12:48 +0000 Subject: Can a settler be defined as human rights activist - a debate on the Hebrew Wikipedia makes it to the headlines of the Israeli press In-Reply-To: References: <51419AC2.3060802@bezeqint.net> Message-ID: <07EBAB3F-A9D7-45CC-BB4F-F830B7CAA2A4@gmail.com> This is really, really interesting, Dror! Was this a vote (i.e. decision on the basis of the number rather than the quality of arguments?) On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:03 AM, nathaniel tkacz wrote: > thanks a lot for sharing this dror. > > nate > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Dror Kamir wrote: > Hello, > > Once again, a debate on the Hebrew Wikipedia makes it to the headlines of the Israeli press. This time, it is a debate over the article (in Hebrew) about Orit Strook (also spelled Struk and Struck). > > Ms. Strook has been recently elected to the Knesset (the Israeli parliament), and is now a prominent representative of the right-wing Zionist-religious party "The Jewish Home" (Ha-Bayit Ha-Yehudi). She is a settler from the Jewish community in Hebron (this community is considered the most hardline among the settler movement's communities. > > Owing to her new status, Strook's article now has the "Knesset Member template", which, among other details, mentions the person's occupation before s/he became an MP. In the case of Strook it is defined as "human rights activist". This is because she headed the "Human Rights Organization of Judea and Samaria", an Israeli NGO whose main activity is defending Israeli settlers and right-wing activists against (alleged) police violence and issuance of restraining orders by Israeli authorities. The title "human right activist" is rarely associated with activists of the settler movement, and more commonly used when referring to Israeli left-wing activists who defend Palestinians against Israeli authorities and act against the settlement activity in the West Bank. (Note - no political statement is intended here, I'm just describing the situation for those of you who are not acquainted with Israeli politics.) > > Some Israeli Wikipedians (at least one of them holds left-wing political views, to the best of my knowledge) challenged Orit Strook's definition as "human rights activist" arguing that her NGO defends only the human rights of settlers and ignores the human rights of Palestinians. According to the article's talkpage, a similar discussion has already been held in 2007, when someone suggested to add the category "human rights activists" to this article (the category is currently not there, just the mention in the template). These Wikipedians also said that this NGO's mission is inconsistent with the definition of "human rights" in the article about the subject on the Hebrew Wikipedia. One suggested alternative was writing that Strook was an "activist for settlers' rights" or just mentioning that she was "the head of the Human Rights Organization of Judea and Samaria". A response to this suggestion was "Another suggestion would be that you understand that human rights are not an innovation of the extreme left in Israel". Well, not all responses are sarcastic like this one, but this is the general idea in most of them. > > The debate is now reported on one of Israel's leading news websites - NRG-Maariv (the reporter is Arik Bender). According to this report, the issue was decided by a vote of 28 against 23 to retain the definition "human rights activist" in the article about Ms. Strook. I can add that the Hebrew Wikipedia very often resorts to polling in such circumstances. Back to NRG's report, it also says that certain Wikipedians sent questions to Ms. Strook, asking her whether she supported universal human rights, including Palestinians, and whether she defined herself as "human rights activist". According to the report, Strook sent back an elaborated reply and denied she was defending only the rights of Jews. She said she had also defended Arabs who had been sentenced to death by the Palestinian Authority for selling lands to Jews. > > The Report on NRG-Maariv (in Hebrew): http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/451/918.html?hp=1&cat=404&loc=9 > The article about Orit Strook on the Hebrew Wikipedia http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA_%D7%A1%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A7 > The voting debate and process on the Hebrew Wikipedia (in Hebrew) http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%AA_%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%9B%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%91%D7%9E%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%A7%D7%AA/:%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA_%D7%A1%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A7 > The debate on the article's talkpage (in Hebrew) http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%97%D7%94:%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA_%D7%A1%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A7#.D7.9B.D7.A4.D7.99.D7.9C.D7.95.D7.AA_.D7.91.D7.AA.D7.91.D7.A0.D7.99.D7.AA > > I hope you find this interesting, > > Best, > Dror K > > > > > _______________________________________________ > cpov mailing list > cpov at listcultures.org > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/cpov_listcultures.org > > > _______________________________________________ > cpov mailing list > cpov at listcultures.org > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/cpov_listcultures.org Heather Ford Oxford Internet Institute Doctoral Programme www.ethnographymatters.net @hfordsa on Twitter http://hblog.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dqamir at bezeqint.net Fri Mar 15 09:03:48 2013 From: dqamir at bezeqint.net (Dror Kamir) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:03:48 +0200 Subject: Can a settler be defined as human rights activist - a debate on the Hebrew Wikipedia makes it to the headlines of the Israeli press In-Reply-To: <07EBAB3F-A9D7-45CC-BB4F-F830B7CAA2A4@gmail.com> References: <51419AC2.3060802@bezeqint.net> <07EBAB3F-A9D7-45CC-BB4F-F830B7CAA2A4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5142D5E4.1060801@bezeqint.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From majava at ifi.uio.no Tue Mar 26 16:40:14 2013 From: majava at ifi.uio.no (Maja van der Velden) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:40:14 +0100 Subject: Decentering Design: Wikipedia and Indigenous Knowledge Message-ID: <94F66273-7594-4A2F-945D-E27FF82C568A@ifi.uio.no> Hi! My paper on Wikipedia and Indigenous knowledge is published in the Int. Journal of Human Computer Interaction: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10447318.2013.765768 If you are interested - but you have no access to the journal - let me know and I will send you the pdf file. Greetings, Maja From johanna.niesyto at googlemail.com Tue Mar 26 17:05:43 2013 From: johanna.niesyto at googlemail.com (Johanna Niesyto) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:05:43 +0100 Subject: Wikipedia-Dossier erschienen Message-ID: thank you maya! also on the de-web we finally can present the wikipedia special: http://www.bpb.de/gesellschaft/medien/145681/wikipedia