From elektrapav at yahoo.gr Thu Feb 13 14:19:42 2014 From: elektrapav at yahoo.gr (elektra pavlaki) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:19:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: "We are all Diu": Greek Wikipedia, politics & censorship Message-ID: <1392297582.92542.YahooMailNeo@web173101.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> From: elektra pavlaki Theodore Katsanevas is a Greek academic and politician, who used to be Andreas's Papandreou (former Prime Minister of Greece) son-in law. Two years ago, Katsanevas demanded the removal of part of the content of the biographical Wikipedia article about him and filed a lawsuit against the contributor ?Diu? and the GFOSS (Greek Free/Open Source Software Society) for the presumed offenses against his person. The controversial content was a reference in the article to the will of Andreas Papandreou where he referred to Katsanevas as the "shame" for his family. Katsanevas asks the court to impose a 200.000 euros fine to the user and imprisonment for one year. What makes this case interesting is that the contributor had documented the reference, providing citations from multiple newspapers covering the topic. According to a relevant discussion that took place in the Greek Wikipedia (https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/???????????:???????_????_Diu/en), this is the first time worldwide that a politician brings a case to court against a specific Wikipedia contributor. User ?Diu? stated that this lawsuit does not only target a specific contributor but the project of Wikipedia as a whole, since it?s a clear case of censorship. He also wonders in his interview why Katsanevas did not sue the newspapers that were used as the basis for the article. He concludes, that probably this happens because simply a Wikipedia user makes an easier target. Today, ?Diu? is called to appear before the judge. You can find the announcement of the Greek Wikipedia community here: https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/???????????:???????_????_Diu/en (translated in "We are all Diu"). Unfortunately the contributor's interview is in Greek. Two more interesting facts: 1, The Wikimedia Foundation will cover his legal expenses, assuming that the user hasn't violated the law nor the policies of Wikipedia 2. The article's history shows that Katsanevas's lawyers have tried to remove the content, but it was soon restored by other users... which kind of shows that Katsanevas has no idea ?f how the project works, right? :D Even if he wins the trial, this could not refrain other users from reposting it. Elektra -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geert at xs4all.nl Sat Feb 15 12:26:51 2014 From: geert at xs4all.nl (Geert Lovink) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:26:51 +0100 Subject: "We are all Diu": Greek Wikipedia, politics & censorship Message-ID: Update: article written by Michelle Paulson (Wikimedia Foundation): http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedia-user-subject-to-defamation-lawsuit-in-greece/ elektra pavlaki wrote: > I stumbled across an interesting issue/controversy that has received a great deal of publicity and I thought u might find it interesting as well. > > Theodore Katsanevas is a Greek academic and politician, who used to be Andreas's Papandreou (former Prime Minister of Greece) son-in law. Two years ago, Katsanevas demanded the removal of part of the content of the biographical Wikipedia article about him and filed a lawsuit against the contributor ?Diu? and the GFOSS (Greek Free/Open Source Software Society) for the presumed offenses against his person. The controversial content was a reference in the article to the will of Andreas Papandreou where he referred to Katsanevas as the "shame" for his family. Katsanevas asks the court to impose a 200.000 euros fine to the user and imprisonment for one year. > > What makes this case interesting is that the contributor had documented the reference, providing citations from multiple newspapers covering the topic. According to a relevant discussion that took place in the Greek Wikipedia (http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/???????????:???????_????_Diu/en), this is the first time worldwide that a politician brings a case to court against a specific Wikipedia contributor. > > User ?Diu? stated that this lawsuit does not only target a specific contributor but the project of Wikipedia as a whole, since it?s a clear case of censorship. He also wonders in his interview why Katsanevas did not sue the newspapers that were used as the basis for the article. He concludes, that probably this happens because simply a Wikipedia user makes an easier target. > > Elektra From geert at xs4all.nl Sat Feb 15 13:19:29 2014 From: geert at xs4all.nl (Geert Lovink) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:19:29 +0100 Subject: katsanevas - update In-Reply-To: <1392465416.22894.YahooMailNeo@web173105.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1392465416.22894.YahooMailNeo@web173105.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 15 Feb 2014, at 12:56 PM, elektra pavlaki wrote: > It seems that Katsanevas in not the only one in Greece to ignore how wikipedia works. Yesterday, the Court issued a pre-preliminary injunction, ordering user "Diu" to provisionally remove the controversial reference from the article, until the March 11th hearing. Diu gave one more interview stating the obvious: "Obeying the court's ruling, I attempted 10 times to remove the specific reference... which of course got me blocked for 3 days from wikipedia for violating its editing policies. Besides my efforts, the reference was restored by at least 6 different contributors." (source: lifo.gr) From geert at xs4all.nl Thu Feb 20 11:20:50 2014 From: geert at xs4all.nl (Geert Lovink) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:20:50 +0100 Subject: research cooperation References: Message-ID: <54BDD979-D1E4-48BF-924F-BD236DD697B9@xs4all.nl> > From: Dariusz Jemielniak > Subject: research cooperation > Date: 20 February 2014 10:58:01 AM GMT+01:00 > To: geert at xs4all.nl > > Dear CPOV network, > > I'm an associate professor of management in Poland, where I've founded the > New Research on Digital Societies (NeRDS) group: > http://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl > > In my book on Wikipedia ("Common Knowledge?"), drawing from critical > organization studies, forthcoming with Stanford University Press, I've used > your Critical Reader with great admiration and interest. > > I'm thinking about applying for some EU funding for a consortium-driven > research project. Would you be potentially interested in talking about it? > > best, > > dariusz (please feel free to write to dariusz if you have want to know more. /geert) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: