<CPOV> Ilmpedia

[Niesyto, Johanna]

hi all

this discussion just reminds me of a distinction richard rogers made in one of his presentations, which i think is important to start with:

1. Web as Cyberspace (1994-2000) Virtual in the sense of distinct from the real. 
2. Web as Virtual Society? (2000-2007) Virtual is part of the real. Need the offline. 
3. Web as Virtual? Society (2007- ) Virtual as indication of the real. Need the online. 
4. Now claims about society may be 'digitally grounded' (understanding society with the web)

we may first try to comparatively deconstruct 'the global', the 'western' etc by using these four different 'research claims'...

grz
johanna

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Von: cpov-bounces at listcultures.org [cpov-bounces at listcultures.org] im Auftrag von paolo massa [paolo at gnuband.org]
Gesendet: Montag, 14. Juni 2010 15:58
An: Juliana Brunello
Cc: cpov at listcultures.org
Betreff: Re: <CPOV> Ilmpedia

Well, I know everyone here knows about
http://eng.anarchopedia.org/Main_Page
http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page
Wikipedia with precise starting POVs...

About fragmentation of society due to extreme tech-enabled
personalization, I suggest you to read "Republic.com" by Cass Sunstein
http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7014.html
Will we arrive to Mepedia.org (A wikipedia containing just MY personal
views, my own no-need-to-be-negotiated truth)?

P.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Juliana Brunello
<juliana at networkcultures.org> wrote:
> Hi Maja,
>
> I don't believe we can speak of 'christianization of the web', but from a
> 'westernization'. Basically, the internet was born in the west and it was
> only natural for it to represent western views. I do praise diversity, but
> that was not my point. The question is, if separating povs - a chinese
> encyclopedia, a muslim, a 'western' - that do not communicate with one
> another. Will the definitions of reality of each nation be strengthen and
> cooperation and understanding among them be weakened?
>
> Juliana
>
>> Hi Juliana,
>>
>> We can also speak of the 'christianization on the web' - but that
>> trend does not seem to attract the same media coverage.
>>
>> About 'separatism': If 'western' is perceived as representative of the
>> world, then, I guess you can call the move away 'separatism'.
>>
>> I find it sometimes more productive to look for the differences
>> (diversity) within a system or category and the similarities across
>> systems or categories.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Maja
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Juliana Brunello wrote:
>>
>>> Islamicfacebook.com, NaqaTube, imhalal.com and now Ilmpedia. These
>>> are all
>>> Muslim sites based on well known 'western' social sites. Ilmpedia
>>> will be
>>> an encyclopedia based mostly on Islamic sources. The article linked
>>> below
>>> states that "websites like these are part of a growing trend of
>>> Islamisation on the web". I ask myself, what the consequences of this
>>> separatism from the 'western' websites are going to be. Will we have
>>> more
>>> information sources with different povs, so that we will be able to
>>> form
>>> our own opinions in a more balanced way; or will we have the
>>> opposite, one
>>> stream fighting the other and strengthening biased povs even more? I
>>> wish
>>> for the first, but I am not all too positive about it.
>>>
>>> http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=244958
>>>
>>> Juliana
>>>
>>>
>>>
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