<CPOV> As a proviso to my presentation -

Lichty, Patrick plichty at colum.edu
Wed Mar 17 15:21:37 CET 2010

In this discussion, I am a little circumspect in that i am definitely not a Wikipedia scholar, and have been involved in an art project that involved Wikipedia, and as such revealed much of its inner workings.  However, I want to frame where i want to go discursively is to not deal so much with Wikipedia as such, but Wiki-based communities, their cultural effects, and the social scaffolding that emerges from them as the basis for:
1: Creation of emergent hegemonies (Wales, et al), and the reinscription of capital-power in anarchic media
2: The creation of dominant and subcultural drivers through said communities,
3: the potentials for art production/curation under such models and the sociocultural parameters for such
4: The possible reconfiguration of culture under these paradigms.

While Wikipedia as such is a juggernaut and important place to engage in a serious cultural battle, I also feel that the phenomenon of wiki-based communities, of which Wikipedia is merely one, and the cultiral structures that they create, are far more interesting to me than Wikipedia itself.

Patrick Lichty
Assit. Professor
Dept of Interactive Arts & media
Columbia College, Chicago
916/1000 S. Wabash Ave #104
Chicago, IL USA
"Better to Die on Your Feet Than to Live On Your Knees"
From: cpov-bounces at listcultures.org [cpov-bounces at listcultures.org] On Behalf Of Jon Awbrey [jawbrey at att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:12 AM
To: Geert Lovink
Cc: cpov
Subject: Re: <CPOV> Beyond the legacy of the Enlightenment?

Geert & All,

We must never let the facts blind us to a beautiful theory.



Geert Lovink wrote:
> Hi,
> I wondered if everyone had already seen this article on First Monday:
> http://firstmonday.org/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/2744/2428
> Beyond the legacy of the Enlightenment?
> Online Encyclopaedias as digital heterotopias
> by Jutta Haider and Olaf Sundin
> This article explores how we can understand contemporary participatory
> online encyclopaedic expressions, particularly Wikipedia, in their
> traditional role as continuation of the Enlightenment ideal, as well as
> in the distinctly different space of the Internet. Firstly we position
> these encyclopaedias in a historical tradition. Secondly, we assign them
> a place in contemporary digital networks which marks them out as sites
> in which Enlightenment ideals of universal knowledge take on a new
> shape. We argue that the Foucauldian concept of heterotopia, that is
> special spaces which exist within society, transferred online, can serve
> to understand Wikipedia and similar participatory online encyclopaedias
> in their role as unique spaces for the construction of knowledge, memory
> and culture in late modern society.


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