<CPOV> The World According to Jimmy Wales?

nathaniel tkacz nathanieltkacz at gmail.com
Tue May 25 03:20:53 CEST 2010

gregory, jon, john and others,

i think perhaps things have been blown slightly out of proportion. we all
agree that this is a place for critical discussion. part of this might
include discussions of articles written by jim wales, but it is important
that such discussions are directed, historicized, connected to other things
etc etc. so far i think this has been happening. hopefully we all agree that
what jim wales has for breakfast is not relevant, while his comments about
what he sees as the purpose and function of wikipedia are.

let's not forget that there are also many other things the list can and has
been considering (the conference topics are a good guide here, but there's
room for more!). indeed, i am concerned that this conversation might be
taking energy away from these other discussions!

gregory: nobody here is being moderated for having a critical opinion. i
hope that the list is able to recognise its reason for being and works outs
the details on its own!

john: i don't think it's in the interest of the list to start moderating
people. generally, we are still trying to encourage contributions. hopefully
there will be enough that you like and find rewarding for you continue on
the list. so far i don't think anything has been said that warrants a
heavy-handed response, and i'm not even sure what such a response would look
like. (also, because i come from a humanities-based, french theory heavy
background, i'm not used to people talking about being scientific. i think
however, when i say "informed", we mean something similar. i just want to
make it clear that even though i don't use the word "science" do describe
what i want for the list, it doesn't mean i therefore encourage "personal
axe-grinding", naysaying and gossip!)

at this stage i would just like to encourage people to keep writing about
the important issues that wikipedia raises. individual people might play a
part in these issues, but let's make sure it stays about the issues.


Nate Tkacz

Research Fellow,
RMIT University

Twitter: http://twitter.com/__nate__
Homepage: www.nathanieltkacz.net
Current project: http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/cpov/about-2/

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Gregory Kohs <thekohser at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am hopeful that nothing in my commentary was a falsehood.  I know Jimmy
> Wales personally from multiple telephone conversations and numerous e-mail
> exchanges with him, over the course of three years.  I have arrived at my
> opinions on the basis of my learning about him through those private
> discussions, as well as his lengthy history of publicly-documented
> manipulations and other foibles that would lead any "neutral" observer to
> question whether Wales exhibits shame the way most of the rest of us do.
> I would be disappointed for this list to be "moderated" because one of us
> has expressed a vociferous opinion about a noted leader in the world of
> "point of view", but if the powers that be feel that my contributions should
> be censored, so that others might more happily remain here, just let me
> know.  I don't care to be a part of a mailing list community that doesn't
> respect dissenting views, anyway.
> Gregory Kohs
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